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Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by slacka on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @02:52PM (#24768819)
I HATE thin bezels. I actually returned my Galaxy S10 because palm-misclicks dove me crazy. After 19 days of practice and different grips, random clicks didn't get any better.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by lucasmullens on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @03:10PM (#24769056)
Apple might be better at detecting if it's your palm or an intentional tap. MacBook trackpads are great at detecting palm vs finger, so I wouldn't be surprised if the iPhone does well with that too.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by shadowgovt on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @03:15PM (#24769128)
It's kind of fascinating how subtle the math and engineering on this sort of thing is.

I can't stand how, after this many decades of iteration, the Lenovo ThinkPad still mis-comprehends accidentally brushing against the trackpad while you're typing (and the form factor of the whole keyboard / trackpad combo does one no favors unless one touches the keyboard like a hook-handed monster).

Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by andmarios on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @03:47PM (#24769536)
In Linux this is a solved problem by a very simple measure. The gestures (click by tapping, scrolling) are turned off while you type for a short period of time (around 300ms) after each key-press. It works surprisingly well and I've never noticed the trackpad not working when I need it too.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by Toutouxc on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @04:42PM (#24770087)
I have -- attempting to play Minecraft on a touchpad, or just multitasking real quick. While not a huge problem, macOS does it better and the simple measure is just that - a simple measure.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by vermilingua on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @05:34PM (#24770583)
That far from solves the problem. Your workflow might never require using the keyboard and trackpad simultaneously, but for the majority of users, this “simple measure” is a never ending source of pain.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by shadowgovt on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @07:10PM (#24771378)
Sadly, it doesn't work. It addresses the issue of nudging the pad while typing, but not nudging the pad while moving your hand into position to type.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by bluecalm on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @04:43PM (#24770091)
One thing I dream of and will never get is a Thinkpad without a trackpad. Just remove it, give me bigger keyboard, keep the track point and its buttons. I disable the trackpad anyway but it's still annoying just being there and crippling the keyboard functionality.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by selimnairb on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @03:23PM (#24769209)
I disagree. The aircraft carrier sized trackpads of the recent MBPs continues to register errant clicks for me. They are just way too big.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by msisk6 on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @03:44PM (#24769488)
Yeah, I especially like it when I'm in the middle of a long email and some sort of click with my palm happens and it deletes most of what I've been typing. Just happened to me today. Be nice if there was a way to totally deactivate the trackpad if you were using a mouse or something.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by r00fus on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @04:18PM (#24769862)
https://osxdaily.com/2017/01/05/disable-built-in-trackpad-ma...

My 10yo MBP's trackpad glitches so I do exactly this to keep it usable for kids light usage.

Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by trackpadlover on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @03:49PM (#24769553)
So, just to give you data on the other side of the curve: the very large trackpads are basically the only reason left (keyboard now sucks, magsafe is gone) for me to use a MacBook Pro.

Should I in the future revert to Linux as a day-to-day driver, it would probably be conditioned on similar-level support for the (even larger :-D) Magic Trackpad peripheral.

So I guess this is one of these things where YMMV

Edit: FWIW I'm a touch typist with relatively small hands. Maybe this has to do with it. I cannot remember accidentally triggering the trackpad ever since... I can't remember the last time, it's been at least half a decade.

Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by xnx on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @02:56PM (#24768888)
Would thicker case help this problem?