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Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by jimmar on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @01:30PM (#24767724)
I live in a midwest city with a population around 25,000. We won't see 5G for a long, long time. We need signal that goes farther, not faster. 4G is still being rolled out to more rural areas. 5G is a feature I'd rather not pay for.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by toast0 on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @03:26PM (#24769252)
> We need signal that goes farther, not faster.

5G can potentially help with that when deployed on existing spectrum, because increased transmission rates reduces airtime utilization, and some cells adjust their range based on utilization. It might not help much, depending on current utilization and terrain and what not, but it'll probably help some, and I imagine carriers will do gradual deployments of that to lower density areas when there's enough handsets that support it and base station equipment is cost reduced enough. I don't think it's going to be fast, but I don't think it'll be on the long, long time scale.

Of course, 5G on the new high frequency spectrum is unlikely to be useful in low density areas, and is unlikely to be deployed. Also, I think AT&T has plans to declare their LTE coverage to be 5G :P

Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by ryneandal on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @01:42PM (#24767851)
200k city here, don't see it happening any time soon.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by planejane9 on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @02:12PM (#24768167)
70,000 city here. 5G pole went up outside my window last week. Tried to get the pole moved but not successful :(
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by tpmx on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @02:11PM (#24768147)
They say here (from within the past 15 mins):

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/10/13/210785...

> Verizon 5G Nationwide service is available today to more than 200 million people in 1,800 cities around the US.

I'm sure there's some trickery going on here, though?

Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by mratmeyer on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @07:55PM (#24771723)
There's really 3 types of 5G: ultra-wideband, mid-band, and low-band. Ultra-wideband is the 5G you hear about most, with gigabit speeds but you have to be within direct line of sight to the cell site. There's also mid-band and low-band, which have similar ranges to LTE and can deliver a few hundred megabits instead of gigabits, and can handle problems like congestion better.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by stevehawk on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @02:22PM (#24768367)
There's a lot going on there like "5G service in city X!" where they really mean "we have an antenna mounted at the ballpark to cover a high density use case."
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by tpmx on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @02:26PM (#24768432)
Sure. But at this point even just one 5G base station each for 1.8k cities/towns is a pretty decent step up.
Re:iPhone 12 and iPhone 12 Pro by protomyth on Tuesday October 13, 2020 @02:17PM (#24768272)
available in 1,800 cities doesn't mean coverage in 1,800 cities - a lot of venue coverage is being counted