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Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by stefan_ on Saturday October 10, 2020 @08:41AM (#24738562)
In what particular hellhole have I even landed that we are now using the terms of a Twitter fight to discuss brutal, indiscriminate suppression of protests?

Applying "doxxing" rules to police on the job in public must be the most absurd perversion of the term ever. Why on earth would we grant privacy to public servants entrusted with the force monopoly?

Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by mswtk on Saturday October 10, 2020 @03:49PM (#24741384)
It really is one of the most egregious examples of a cultural echo chamber I've seen on HN.

We're talking about a brutal police force serving a corrupt and delegitimized regime, that is involved in extrajudicial detention, torture, and murder of peaceful protesters. This unit, the OMON, was specifically established to serve as Lukashenko's beatstick against the opposition. Now, the overwhelmingly peaceful protest movement in Belarus has turned towards intimidation (no actual violence has been reported, afaik) against these people specifically, as a way of fighting back.

And then you see people on HN referring to this as "doxxing", as if this was some kind of pithy Twitter fight. I understand that Twitter fights are what people around here can more easily relate to their own life experience than what is currently going on in Belarus, but for Christ's sake, let's try and put things in perspective here.

Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by dontcarethrow2 on Sunday October 11, 2020 @10:47AM (#24746150)
Well, goldenboy Apple has been caught yet again in its own hypocrisy. These mental gymnastics the fanboys are pulling are worthy of some gold medals.
Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by sjwright on Sunday October 11, 2020 @12:40AM (#24743771)
Sure, but for Apple to change its policies specifically in this case is for Apple to take sides in a political conflict/civil war. I don't think that's a viable outcome either.

Apple doesn't have any good options here; I think their strategy of a toothless demand with no follow through might well be the least worst option for Apple, and for Telegram.

Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by mswtk on Sunday October 11, 2020 @12:47PM (#24747094)
I wasn't really commenting on what Apple should or shouldn't be doing, just on the tone of the conversation in this thread. That said...

Apple have a really good, straightforward option: Don't police user-generated content in iOS apps. Or, at the very least not the ones intended specifically for communication. They aren't listening to people's phone calls or reading their messages in search of ToS-breaching content after all.

It simply shouldn't be any of their business what Telegram's users post on Telegram's platform. Telegram should be able to independently make the decision what it wants to permit therein.

Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by Dylan16807 on Saturday October 10, 2020 @05:22PM (#24741974)
> In what particular hellhole have I even landed that we are now using the terms of a Twitter fight to discuss brutal, indiscriminate suppression of protests?

I don't see any part of the comment doing that. Can you quote it?

I see internet terms being applied to the actions against the police, and those actions aren't brutal at all.

Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by zepto on Saturday October 10, 2020 @09:51AM (#24739003)
Do you mean all police everywhere?