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Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by boudin on Saturday October 10, 2020 @05:11AM (#24737643)
This seems to match this post, where apple is asking to remove telegram groups used to de-anonymize law enforcement members.

Apple could do something really simple if they wanted to not interfeer with how people organize their fight: allow to install apps outside of the app store. This would force law enforcement to deal with Telegram directly rather than being able to take advantage of apple's own authoritarian way to run its platform.

Now it's a question of what's apple highest priority, people freedom or profit.

Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by tgragnato on Saturday October 10, 2020 @08:53AM (#24738638)
Profit.

They are already requiring entitlements to develop things that use the network extension framework (no sideload for VPNs and proxies bypassing the Chinese firewall).

This is just them being forced (again) to make visible the negative sides of such a centralized platform.

Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by antris on Saturday October 10, 2020 @08:51AM (#24738621)
It doesn't change the legal threats of the Belarus government, though. It can still compel Apple to ban self-installs.
Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by Barrin92 on Saturday October 10, 2020 @02:03PM (#24740670)
How are they going to compel Apple, send a Soviet era fishing boat to the shores of California and scream loudly or turn their own internet off?
Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by zepto on Saturday October 10, 2020 @09:50AM (#24738994)
It would also allow governments to force people to install tracking apps, as they do in parts of China.

It’s not simple.

Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by dane-pgp on Saturday October 10, 2020 @06:21PM (#24742292)
Apple could still retain the capability to delete malicious apps from phones (even apps that weren't installed via the App Store).

Presumably Belarus would then make a demand that Apple delete Telegram from people's phones as it is "malicious", but I'd hope that forcing a company to delete things from someone's phone is legally harder than forcing them to hide things on their own servers.

Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by sjwright on Sunday October 11, 2020 @12:43AM (#24743785)
And that capability would be trivial for Belarus to side-step.
Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by dane-pgp on Sunday October 11, 2020 @01:14PM (#24747340)
Presumably you're imagining some sort of cat-and-mouse game where Belarus release a new version of the app, and then Apple add that app to the blacklist (which iPhones would update daily from Apple's servers, and broadcast via AirDrop).

Rather than blacklisting the app's name or hash, Apple would probably have to blacklist the Developer ID, which it would be hard for Belarus to generate quicker than Apple could blacklist.

Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by cageface on Sunday October 11, 2020 @01:45AM (#24743975)
Unnecessary because they can already force you to pass all monetary transactions through an app like WeChat and can track you all they want there.

And let's not pretend that Apple has shown any willingness to stand up to the Chinese government.

Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by shoulderfake on Saturday October 10, 2020 @08:23AM (#24738460)
We all know the answer to that
Re:Apple tells Telegram to take down protestor channels in B... by Mindwipe on Saturday October 10, 2020 @07:30PM (#24742694)
As this is the inevitable consequence of a platform where a central party controls all software on it, Apple picked profit day 1.