Re:How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only un...
by kristopolous on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @04:36PM
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Not only but when industrial unions came to power, industrial workers were the highest demand profession.
United artists, AFTRA, WGA, DGA, all formed when their skills were in high demand. There's a natural employer/employee power dynamic that even Adam Smith talks about. If his fanboys only read his books they'd know that.
Re:How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only un...
by dmurray on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @05:34PM
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This is true, but it doesn't stem from union organisers opportunistically seizing the best moment to negotiate. Rather, some people are always trying to organise collective action, management usually calls their bluff, and the striking employees end up coming back to work or being replaced. When they can't be replaced easily or they have alternatives to coming back to work, management is forced to the negotiating table.
There's an alternative narrative where the government steps in and says hey, you have to allow unions. In practice, while some government support is necessary, this doesn't seem to lead to powerful unions in the same way.
Re:How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only un...
by radu_floricica on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @04:29PM
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Any country where tech workers are mistreated as a rule?
Re:How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only un...
by bhupy on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @04:35PM
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China. they've got the notorious "9-9-6" hours. "9 AM to 9PM, 6 days a week".
Re:How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only un...
by criddell on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @04:38PM
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Are there a lot of labor unions in China?
Re:How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only un...
by michaelt on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @07:36PM
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The All-China Federation of Trade Unions is the largest trade union in the world, with 302 million members.
Of course, some would say taking the ACFTU as representative of unions is like taking the East India Company as representative of multinational corporations...
Re:How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only un...
by Apocryphon on Thursday October 08, 2020 @01:48AM
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They're also arguably not an actual independent trade union, but rather a tool of the government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-China_Federation_of_Trade_...
Re:How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only un...
by pseudalopex on Wednesday October 07, 2020 @04:47PM
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Not really.[1]
[1] https://www.chinabusinessreview.com/trade-union-law-and-coll...
In USA that is, things can be very different abroad.