The thinner the phone, the thicker the case I can put on it with the same total thickness. It's incredibly rare to see a case-less phone in the wild these days.

It’s not incredibly rare at all. Phones these days are engineered well and they’re much less susceptible to fall damage. I’ve dropped my case-less iPhone X on the ground half a dozen times and it’s only collected a few dings on the corners.

I always found the older, entirely aluminum iPhones way too slippery to hold onto without a case.

I heard somewhere that in Holland every bicycle + lock weighs 5kg. If you have a cheap 5kg bike no one wants it and you don't have to lock it. If you have an expensive 1.5kg bike you need a lock that weighs 3.5kg to protect it.

In tour de France, bicycles under 6kgs are forbidden. Bicycles under this weight are incredible expensive and dangerous. Using metals like titanium and carbon fiber.

Most light and simple(no suspension) road bicycles weight usually 10 kilos, most mountain bikes do weight 15-20 kgs.

In Holland, most bicycles you see on the street are simple and cheap.

I think seanc probably has the idea of the saying right but with the wrong specific numbers.

It's more like 20% of the bike's cost should be in locks.

And a 1.5kg bike? What kind of bikes are you looking at?

You're off by a large amount. I'd say its closer to 15kg, and bike quality and weight aren't that correlated here. It's a lot more about maintenance and not being rusted to hell w.r.t. how likely a bike is to get stolen.

In general, since we are so flat a country, bike weight doesn't matter much. We'd rather have extra fancy stuff on a bike than have a lighter bike.

Wholly dependent on your environment. I don't see a case very often where I'm at

I don't use a case. If it were meant to be used with a case it would come built in. Iphones could easily double in thickness without making it harder to slip into a (male) pocket.

There are pockets for women's clothing?

The battery life on my oneplus 8 is the best I have ever had on a phone, and the difference it makes is massive. If I am ever faced with the trade-off between thinner phone and bigger battery, I'll take the bigger battery every time.

It would be pretty cool if we could make something like the folding tablets in Westworld.

I think phones and tablets will keep getting thinner, because you can always buy a cover to make it bigger. And it's better if more of the bulk of the phone is protective material rather than sensitive electronics.

I think eventually phones will basically be just a display, with no ports (wireless charging only), no buttons, and then you'll get covers with extra battery, ports, or whatever you want.

I do want a slightly thinner phone, or maybe for some of that extra space to be used for padding / reinforcement. This phone is almost always in my pockets, if it is thinner, it fits better.

I wouldn't mind too much if it meant I could put a case on it and have it be the size it is now.

A phone with a wide screen is hard to hold. I'll begin having issue with thickness only if it starts cutting fingers.

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