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Re:What is the best dumb TV? by tornato7 on Saturday October 03, 2020 @02:13AM (#24669967)
You should try running it through a pihole. Even better, maybe you can manage to MITM it and replace the ads with something funny.
Re:What is the best dumb TV? by lostlogin on Saturday October 03, 2020 @02:28AM (#24670059)
Some devices bypass the Pihole, and while you can catch them at the firewall, it’s a tedious game.
Re:What is the best dumb TV? by panpanna on Saturday October 03, 2020 @02:56AM (#24670165)
So what we need is a jailbreak and custom firmware?
Re:What is the best dumb TV? by lostlogin on Saturday October 03, 2020 @05:39AM (#24670826)
Very very much so.
Re:What is the best dumb TV? by 867-5309 on Saturday October 03, 2020 @06:36AM (#24671062)
how is it possible to bypass? if it is the only thing available then it is impossible to use an alternative
Re:What is the best dumb TV? by girvo on Saturday October 03, 2020 @08:12AM (#24671440)
They use their own DNS rather than PiHole’s.
Re:What is the best dumb TV? by mateuszf on Saturday October 03, 2020 @08:43AM (#24671646)
If they use own DNS then maybe it can be disabled by IP rule in firewall?
Re:What is the best dumb TV? by Spare_account on Saturday October 03, 2020 @09:27AM (#24671944)
If they can't get to their preferred DNS servers directly then they use DNS-over-HTTPS which you can't block.
Re:What is the best dumb TV? by jon-wood on Saturday October 03, 2020 @09:20AM (#24671884)
Piholes just replace DNS results, so a device using hard coded DNS servers allows it to bypass that. This leads to people redirecting all port 53 traffic to the Pihole, which leads to devices/apps doing DNS over HTTPS, at which point it’s game over unless you can get your self-signed cert onto the device.
Re:What is the best dumb TV? by 867-5309 on Saturday October 03, 2020 @05:47PM (#24674907)
but surely these devices are set up to use DHCP and receive home users' DNS servers? giving them static IPs would not work. I suppose it depends on a) if these devices are somehow set up to receive just an IP address over DHCP and use their own hardcoded DNS servers and b) whether the home DHCP server / router would honour this and not enforce its own DNS servers along with the IP address
Re:What is the best dumb TV? by jon-wood on Saturday October 03, 2020 @08:25PM (#24675736)
They’ll be using DHCP, but even when not doing anything nefarious you’re better off using known DNS servers when deploying appliances on random networks because consumer ISPs have a habit of ignoring TTLs and redirecting DNS results when you’re reaching bandwidth quotas and the like.
Re:What is the best dumb TV? by 867-5309 on Saturday October 03, 2020 @10:45PM (#24676185)
then the DHCP can assign PiHole as the DNS resolver, and if the requested domain isn't in its block list then it will be forwarded to google, cloudflare, etc.

i. e. the ads on smart devices can be blocked