Re:Why I design at Google
by kes on Tuesday April 19, 2011 @10:48PM
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Long-term, I want my design work to influence the direction of large groups and societies, and to do that I need to learn how to work with and persuade people who aren’t inclined or required to listen to professional designers.
Re:Why I design at Google
by thechangelog on Tuesday April 19, 2011 @09:38PM
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Are you asking about Apple "quality" aesthetics?
Graphic design is about solving problems; aesthetics are secondary. Google's designs solve its problems--satisfying search results, simple access to email, etc--very effectively.
Re:Why I design at Google
by nchlswu on Wednesday April 20, 2011 @09:00AM
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This is a silly issue of semantics, but the trackpad isn't exactly a mouse; still a pointing device though.
Anyways, his snipe is hardly outdated. Apple's most succesful products manage to balance form and function beautifully, but their mice are a pretty big hole where function has clearly been sacrificed for form.
It's only a matter of taste. For me that page is ugly as hell. I haven't activated my profile yet, and maybe because of this that page looks empty, no content on it, no reasons given to me for why I should ever activate my profile.
On top of that, I also managed to break their JS on the first couple of minutes of browsing it. I clicked on the "PicassaWeb" tab link and strange layover window reluctantly showed up (after 2 or 3 seconds on the first try). When I try to close that by clicking the "No thanks" link nothing happens, apart from FF reporting a JavaScript error:
Re:Why I design at Google
by ed209 on Wednesday April 20, 2011 @03:36AM
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I think you'll find that Apple has done more than anyone else with regard to raising the importance of design in product.
In the last 6 months there has been a real shift towards the importance of design. I'd say thanks to iPhone mostly for spreading the message. I doubt Google has inspired many designers although they are starting to change... and no, profiles is not one of those.
Re:Why I design at Google
by crazycanuck on Wednesday April 20, 2011 @02:30AM
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You're missing 0. make great products, which at the big table are the only stakes that count.
This is too much me/my/I. It's a nice insight into why folks might think about design at Google, but a sharper insight into why design at Google has a ways to go.
Re:Why I design at Google
by nostrademons on Wednesday April 20, 2011 @03:31AM
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The post is about why he designs at Google, not how he designs at Google. That'll necessarily be quite personal in nature. If you ask how, that's much more focused on the end user, but also far more confidential. Get a job there if you're interested.
I think that this is the most important bit.
Graphic design is about solving problems; aesthetics are secondary. Google's designs solve its problems--satisfying search results, simple access to email, etc--very effectively.
Anyways, his snipe is hardly outdated. Apple's most succesful products manage to balance form and function beautifully, but their mice are a pretty big hole where function has clearly been sacrificed for form.
I won't call Jazz UI, or SearchWiki, or +1 as "solving problem design".
This is what makes design at Google fundamentally different from design at Apple.
http://www.41latitude.com/post/557224600/map-comparison
Google Profiles (https://profiles.google.com/) has better usability and a cleaner design than Apple's homepage (http://www.apple.com/).
It's only a matter of taste. For me that page is ugly as hell. I haven't activated my profile yet, and maybe because of this that page looks empty, no content on it, no reasons given to me for why I should ever activate my profile.
On top of that, I also managed to break their JS on the first couple of minutes of browsing it. I clicked on the "PicassaWeb" tab link and strange layover window reluctantly showed up (after 2 or 3 seconds on the first try). When I try to close that by clicking the "No thanks" link nothing happens, apart from FF reporting a JavaScript error:
> Error: h is undefined Source File: https://profiles.google.com/c/ui/js/122008102-PwaLinkMain.js Line: 39
I'm on FF 3.6.13, Windows 7. Here's a quick screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/f67Nj.png
I don't think they're going to catch Facebook with that ugly page design and beginners' mistakes.
In the last 6 months there has been a real shift towards the importance of design. I'd say thanks to iPhone mostly for spreading the message. I doubt Google has inspired many designers although they are starting to change... and no, profiles is not one of those.
This is too much me/my/I. It's a nice insight into why folks might think about design at Google, but a sharper insight into why design at Google has a ways to go.