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Re:China's social credit system is both unique and part of a... by bamboozled on Monday September 28, 2020 @06:23PM (#24621869)
"Chinas' goal is to build a happy society that is more affluent and happy than the US but has less freedoms."

It seems this is the case if you're Han Chinese only.

Re:China's social credit system is both unique and part of a... by nendroid on Monday September 28, 2020 @06:46PM (#24622047)
The government isn't targeting people by race. It's targeting people by culture and behavior. You either conform to the affluent chinese westernized lifestyle or they will force you Assimilate. Very similar to what happened to much of the Americas.

Race is just a correlation, the causative factor is the culture associated with the race as practitioners of falun gong (who include the Han people) are also targeted.

In America, I have the freedom to brainwash people into following Scientology, in China such cults cannot exist. The line of demarcation is blurry, when does a religion become a cult? How is the fantasmic stories of walking on water or coming back from the dead in christianity make it any different from scientology?

When China sees serfdom as part of the Tibetan culture do they label it backwards and raze the entire belief system or do they leave it alone? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/feb/10/tibet-...

Re:China's social credit system is both unique and part of a... by acephal on Monday September 28, 2020 @10:29PM (#24623653)
> Race is just a correlation, the causative factor is the culture associated with the race as practitioners of falun gong (who include the Han people) are also targeted.

This also happens in America today

Re:China's social credit system is both unique and part of a... by hker on Monday September 28, 2020 @06:51PM (#24622079)
> The government isn't targeting people by race. It's targeting people by culture and behavior.

Are you saying that the Chinese government force abortion by culture and behavior [1], not by race?

[1]: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v7g8m8/forced-abortions-a...

Re:China's social credit system is both unique and part of a... by nendroid on Monday September 28, 2020 @06:56PM (#24622112)
This is horrid. What's going on here is that the targeting is going in both directions. They target the race because of the culture.

In general if you live in the big cities but follow the cultural standards you will not be touched regardless of your race.

Re:China's social credit system is both unique and part of a... by Udik on Monday September 28, 2020 @07:32PM (#24622429)
Until a few years ago the Uighurs were exempt- as minority- from the one-child policy applied to the rest of China. Would you say they were being racist against the Han then?
Re:China's social credit system is both unique and part of a... by hker on Monday September 28, 2020 @06:45PM (#24622036)
Not only that.

Not only non-Han Chinese face oppression (Uyghurs, Tibetans, Mongolians [1]), but lower class Han are also not well treated [2].

Point is, we should not judge the progress of China based on its most affluent class. Things are much more messy behind the cover.

And when we try to see the full picture, China is less and less a role model for others to follow.

[1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/31/world/asia/china-protest-...

[2]: https://international.thenewslens.com/article/136734

Re:China's social credit system is both unique and part of a... by powerapple on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @08:28AM (#24626867)
Since when you want to have a developing world as a model for others (developed world) for follow? There is a reason developing world is called developing world. And it doesn't mean a developing country should not follow China's approach to multiple issues.
Re:China's social credit system is both unique and part of a... by hker on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @02:59PM (#24631603)
This comes back to the article: we should not follow Chinese social credit system.