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Re:Social-media platforms are destroying evidence of war crimes by sneak on Saturday September 26, 2020 @08:39PM (#24603298)
Without public knowledge and access to the media directly, what incentive or pressure does government have to pursue consequences for these crimes?
Re:Social-media platforms are destroying evidence of war crimes by chillacy on Saturday September 26, 2020 @09:26PM (#24603478)
What I find ironic is that this is the exact logic Facebook made for not taking down posts from politicians (the political speech exemption) and then most people didn’t find that very compelling.

Perhaps the content should just be hidden and hard to access to reduce vitality but still allow people to view if they want? That wouldn’t satisfy everyone either though.

Re:Social-media platforms are destroying evidence of war crimes by vageli on Saturday September 26, 2020 @09:07PM (#24603398)
> Without public knowledge and access to the media directly, what incentive or pressure does government have to pursue consequences for these crimes?

I agree with you, but to play devil's advocate, without public knowledge and access to the media directly, what incentive or pressure do terrorist organizations have? If the whole point of these acts is to instill fear, if they are not well-known the impact is limited. I can see that argument but don't have a good rebuttal.

Re:Social-media platforms are destroying evidence of war crimes by sneak on Saturday September 26, 2020 @11:27PM (#24603997)
You don’t combat terrorism by not talking about terrorism (aka censorship).
Re:Social-media platforms are destroying evidence of war crimes by names_are_hard on Sunday September 27, 2020 @01:39AM (#24604464)
Why not? For most things I'd agree with you, but in the case of terrorism specifically (whatever exactly that word means) I'm not convinced. Isn't the goal of terrorism to inflict terror or raise awareness? If no one is talking about your act of terror you've failed at your goal.
Re:Social-media platforms are destroying evidence of war crimes by sneak on Sunday September 27, 2020 @02:47AM (#24604728)
Because terrorism is used by small groups to inflict tyranny over larger groups, and if those larger groups self-inflict tyranny in the form of censorship, they reach the same end as terror attacks themselves.

Just like poker, terrorism isn't a thing that exists in a vacuum: it exists inside of, and in relation to, wider society.

Re:Social-media platforms are destroying evidence of war crimes by crazygringo on Saturday September 26, 2020 @09:11PM (#24603419)
I mean, the fact that they happened.

The existence of the war crime allegations isn't being removed.

People horrified by the war crimes themselves provide the incentive/pressure. Photos/videos don't add to it, they just confirm the evidence.

I really don't think any victims' families are saying "oh well, because we can't see the videos anymore I guess we won't bother the government after all".

Re:Social-media platforms are destroying evidence of war crimes by sneak on Saturday September 26, 2020 @11:28PM (#24604004)
The fact that crimes happened is not pressure upon governments to act upon them, no.

Governments generally only respond to public pressure or existential threats to their power and control and revenue, and little else.

Re:Social-media platforms are destroying evidence of war crimes by xkcd-sucks on Saturday September 26, 2020 @10:12PM (#24603655)
> The existence of the war crime allegations isn't being removed.

Oh, but it is. The direct witnesses' accounts are minimized and ridiculed for lack of evidence, then the witnesses stop talking about it (normal ones; the crazy ones keep ranting about it forever) and the matter is totally gone within a generation. A historian might dig it up a few decades later to make a career and by that time it's too old to be relevant.

Consider these major events before they were part of accepted reality: NSA spying, coronavirus, the Holocaust, Uighur ethnic cleansing, Tuskegee syphilis experiments, etc.