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Re:Toward a “modern” Emacs by JoshTriplett on Friday September 25, 2020 @10:00PM (#24595844)
> Emacs has a steep learning curve and that's good. You need a moat to keep the barbarians from destroying your kingdom.

Most of the emacs community radiates that same attitude, which is one reason it stays where it is and doesn't flourish.

Re:Toward a “modern” Emacs by konjin on Friday September 25, 2020 @10:16PM (#24595912)
Yes, it's wonderful the community is small and technically capable.
Re:Toward a “modern” Emacs by andeee23 on Saturday September 26, 2020 @02:46AM (#24596912)
A community can be technically capable without being full of elitists. Just look at Clojure.
Re:Toward a “modern” Emacs by konjin on Saturday September 26, 2020 @04:19AM (#24597223)
It helps to have a lot of very visible brackets when people sign up, it scares away the majority who won't cut it.

Emacs is in that unfortunate position that you can learn the shortcuts and 'use' it for months before you even see your first bracket and end up thinking the brackets are the problem, not you.

The number of times I've heard people demand the scripting language change to python...

Re:Toward a “modern” Emacs by JoshTriplett on Saturday September 26, 2020 @02:52PM (#24601218)
And that exact attitude also drives away people who could handle and enjoy Lisp just fine, just not unwelcoming elitism.
Re:Toward a “modern” Emacs by konjin on Saturday September 26, 2020 @05:51PM (#24602452)
Yes, it's a feature, one we should use a lot more of.

Someone that thin skinned would demand that the project accommodate them, try to take it over and then run it to the ground.

After all it's not like Stallman didn't become homeless because of people like that.

Re:Toward a “modern” Emacs by dang on Monday September 28, 2020 @02:57AM (#24613714)
Can you please not do programming flamewars on HN? It's low-quality discussion and it has poisonous effects on the community.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html