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Re:Handshake – A Namespace for the Decentralized Web by llimos on Thursday September 24, 2020 @12:46PM (#24580597)
Sometimes there are advantages to centralized DNS. Wouldn't this make taking down botnets' c&c servers that much harder?

I suppose there could be a blacklist that gets periodically downloaded by the OS. But then you're back where you started - who maintains the blacklist?

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Re:Handshake – A Namespace for the Decentralized Web by warkdarrior on Thursday September 24, 2020 @01:00PM (#24580774)
Decentralized DNS is fantastic for botnets that use Domain Name Generation (DGA). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_generation_algorithm

You can easily control the domains, schedule their use, and not worry about takedowns.

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Re:Handshake – A Namespace for the Decentralized Web by rini17 on Thursday September 24, 2020 @01:04PM (#24580816)
But are handshake domains free? Who pays the ETH blockchain fees?
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Re:Handshake – A Namespace for the Decentralized Web by Taek on Thursday September 24, 2020 @02:29PM (#24581850)
Handshake is not Eth based it runs on its own blockchain. There are still fees but they are quite small. Less than a penny per update currently.
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Re:Handshake – A Namespace for the Decentralized Web by 0df8dkdf on Thursday September 24, 2020 @02:34PM (#24581908)
Maybe don't think it as a DSN, but rather how the Root Files are hosted. Currently there are national security issues with the way how Root Files are hosted. It is ONLY fair since the Internet is for the world that the Root Files are decentralised in that fashion as well.

Although I'm not entirely sold on BlockChain, there are other more energy saving gossip based Byzantine fault tolerant protocol to consider for use. However, everyone is just prototyping in this space. So for one I'm big supporter for the Root Files to be stored in this fashion, even if it is on a blockchain.

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Re:Handshake – A Namespace for the Decentralized Web by rini17 on Thursday September 24, 2020 @12:59PM (#24580769)
If you can't live without blacklists, then maintain them yourself. No protocol will do it for you, if DNS or IRC gets inconvenient, then botnets move to reddit or twitter (some already did).
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Re:Handshake – A Namespace for the Decentralized Web by MrXOR on Thursday September 24, 2020 @03:45PM (#24582724)
Similar question: based on Zooko's triangle, decentralization will reduce the security of DNS. How secure are blockchain based naming systems like Handshake, ENS, Unstoppable, Blockstack, etc?
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Re:Handshake – A Namespace for the Decentralized Web by jacobjonz on Friday September 25, 2020 @03:17AM (#24587360)
In fact, the idea of handshake seems to take care of exactly that. Decentralization without loss of security. Basically, you have the name and the certificate associated in the chain itself and go the dane route. I'm not the best person to explain these, but I guess there is a little about this on handshake.org
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