Translation From MS-Speak to English of the “Native HTML5″ announcement

Re:Translation From MS-Speak to English of the “Native HTML5... by praeclarum on Saturday April 16, 2011 @12:19AM (#2453154)

I really don't understand why people are whining so much about this.

I think native is justified given that (1) they are (finally) JITing their JS and (2) their graphics renderer in using the new DirectWrite lib which is very close to what the WDDM graphics drivers talk. They're saying that they're running much closer to the hardware than they did in the past.

Why are people being so negative about it? Better browsers are better for the web. Period. Exclamation point.

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Re:Translation From MS-Speak to English of the “Native HTML5... by wikyd on Saturday April 16, 2011 @12:42AM (#2453189)

1 isn't exclusive to them, so doesn't add to their point of being "native." 2 comes with a ton of caveats, if I'm not mistaken. Other browsers also take advantage of graphics cards for certain kinds of rendering.

I have no evidence for this, but I think that IE is trying to ride on the positive association people have for "native apps" on mobile phones.

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Re:Translation From MS-Speak to English of the “Native HTML5... by praeclarum on Sunday April 17, 2011 @07:58AM (#2455992)

I don't see how exclusivity has anything at all to do with a technical point (I am considering "native" a technical point.)

But I'm tired of defending them.

I honestly just don't understand people's negativity. I'll say it again, better browsers make for a better web. You can laugh at their marketing pitch, but we should all be excited that they put a thoroughbred horse in the race.

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Re:Translation From MS-Speak to English of the “Native HTML5... by wikyd on Sunday April 17, 2011 @01:39PM (#2456517)

When they claim they are the only native browser, then the feature set that defines native better be exclusive to them.

It's not negativity to call bullshit on a claim. There are plenty of things Microsoft could be touting about their browser without making up marketing speak.

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Re:Translation From MS-Speak to English of the “Native HTML5... by obtino on Saturday April 16, 2011 @12:26AM (#2453167)

It'd be great if they explained the details (just like that) to the more technically apt people (who are more likely to ensure that the software succeeds) rather than just throwing around what sounds like buzz-words.

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Re:Translation From MS-Speak to English of the “Native HTML5... by praeclarum on Saturday April 16, 2011 @12:30AM (#2453176)

Yeah you have a point. But as a technically apt person, I ignore the marketing speak and look this stuff up. It's published all over their blogs, podcasts, etc. They have great developer relations and there's tons of info out there.

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Re:Translation From MS-Speak to English of the “Native HTML5... by sid0 on Saturday April 16, 2011 @02:40AM (#2453411)

(1) they are (finally) JITing their JS

Just like every other browser.

(2) their graphics renderer in using the new DirectWrite lib

Just like at least one other browser.

Why are people being so negative about it?

What does IE do so "natively" as to claim that the only native Web experience is with IE9/10 on Windows 7?

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