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Re:SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating V... by celticninja on Saturday September 19, 2020 @10:32AM (#24527677)
Black is fine, 'the blacks' or 'the whites' is not. If you are describing someone it is fine to denote their skin colour. It is not fine to encompass a whole group as 'blacks', does this include mixed race people, does it include all BAME groups?
Re:SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating V... by jjcon on Saturday September 19, 2020 @10:45AM (#24527751)
Not everyone here speaks English as a first language (including me). To me that sort of language policing just seems petty. We all know the point being made.
Re:SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating V... by ceejayoz on Saturday September 19, 2020 @10:50AM (#24527787)
“Didn’t know that, thanks for the info” is also a possible approach here for someone speaking English as a second language.
Re:SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating V... by jjcon on Saturday September 19, 2020 @10:51AM (#24527800)
Or they can reply like I did and say quit distracting the conversation with petty language policing
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Re:SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating V... by jjcon on Saturday September 19, 2020 @10:53AM (#24527810)
Please stop calling everything racist - that sort of flamewar is against hn rules and is not in the spirit of cordial conversation
Re:SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating V... by bXVsbGVy on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:03AM (#24527866)
I see your point. And think this controversy could be avoided if OP chosen more neutral words. But I don't think OP was willfully racist.

The most adequate terminology is still in dispute and most people don't follow this discussion closely. Also it varies from country to country.

For instance, in my country, the "n-work" used to be accepted while "black" was pejorative. But recently, a new line of though emerged: those who think we should adopt the NA convention.

To avoid any controversy, I would had chosen other words:

    s/racial/skin color/
    s/black/dark skinned people/
    s/black/fairer skinned people/
OP probably tried to be consistent with the papers they cited.
Re:SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating V... by umanwizard on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:15AM (#24527943)
But black people and “dark-skinned people” don’t mean the same thing. Black people specifically means people whose ancestors are from sub-Saharan Africa. There are other people with dark skin whose genetics are completely different, for example in India or Australia.
Re:SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating V... by celticninja on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:20AM (#24527992)
Does 'blacks' somehow do a better job of defining an ethnic group? Or is it again a catch all term for non-white?
Re:SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating V... by umanwizard on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:22AM (#24528009)
No, “blacks” is not a catch-all term for non-white. Again, it means people whose ancestors are from sub-Saharan Africa. In fact, in the US it is usually even more specific than that, since the vast majority of black Americans’ ancestors are from West Africa specifically.

Similarly, white people or “whites” usually refers to people whose ancestors are from Europe, even though there are other people with light skin tones throughout the world (especially Asian or Native American people in high latitudes).

Not really sure what point you’re making.

Re:SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating V... by celticninja on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:19AM (#24527980)
>. And think this controversy could be avoided if OP chosen more neutral words. But I don't think OP was willfully racist

I agree entirely and said so in my initial comment. As I say elsewhere it was really to inform OP rather than berate them.

Re:SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating V... by sokoloff on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:07AM (#24527884)
> in my country, the [n-word] used to be accepted while black was seems as pejorative.

I’m presuming you mean “negro” rather than a 6-letter word starting with “ni”?!

Re:SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating V... by celticninja on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:12AM (#24527916)
None of the papers cited in the thread above use the specific terms 'blacks' or 'whites' so I'm pretty happy placing the responsibility for this on OP.