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Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by jessriedel on Thursday September 17, 2020 @05:57PM (#24510467)
The science output of a given device usually shows heavily diminishing returns. I would say 12 Hubbles would have had at most twice the impact of 1 Hubble, probably less.
Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by jniedrauer on Thursday September 17, 2020 @06:37PM (#24510812)
The famous "deep field" image from Hubble almost didn't happen, at least for many more years, due to limited time availability[0].

> “The telescope allocation committee would never have approved such a long, risky project,”

Other similar "high risk" experiments would be more likely to occur if time constraints were not such a concern.

[0]: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/phenomena/2015/04...

Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by ISL on Thursday September 17, 2020 @07:13PM (#24511100)
Agreed. I suspect that the impact of added Hubbles would be roughly linear in the number of satellites for at least three or four more satellites.

The bigger question is whether the requisite resources could have a larger combined impact elsewhere by delivering similar advances in astrophysical missions, for which I suspect the answer was correctly judged to be "yes".

Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by melling on Thursday September 17, 2020 @07:27PM (#24511202)
Hubble’s replacement, James Webb, could offer us an opportunity to have a second space telescope.

We just need to figure out how to repair the Hubble.

Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by java-man on Thursday September 17, 2020 @10:49PM (#24512468)
And I really fail to see why we build ONE James Webb. What of there is anomaly at launch? Why not build two? If one fails, we have another. If both launch, we have two telescopes! (Well, I don't know how difficult to have to instruments bobbing around L2 point).

Most of the price of JW is research and development anyway. It will not be 2x the price, it will be much less, so even if we ignore the possible scientific output, from a purely financial perspective two would be a bargain.

I just don't understand why we build one JW, and one Hubble, but we can afford 12 KHs and god know how many other spy telescopes...

Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by assap_cocky on Thursday September 17, 2020 @11:14PM (#24512610)
First rule in government spending: Why build one when you can have two at twice the price?

If only this was true.

Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by UI_at_80x24 on Thursday September 17, 2020 @11:58PM (#24512845)
A relevant Contact quote, on the topic of Space?

nicely done.

Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by trentnix on Friday September 18, 2020 @02:00AM (#24513414)
Wanna take a ride?
Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by NikolaeVarius on Thursday September 17, 2020 @07:51PM (#24511358)
Its not a replacement . Its a successor
Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by melling on Thursday September 17, 2020 @09:41PM (#24512070)
Hubble will be gone in 5-10 year.

Whenever it breaks it’s done.

Call the James’s Webb whatever you want. The point is that it would be useful to have both for decades

Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by tdy721 on Thursday September 17, 2020 @09:43PM (#24512079)
James Webb isn’t a spy satellite chassis. The Vera Rubins telescope is though
Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by pkaye on Friday September 18, 2020 @01:16AM (#24513246)
I think the James Webb focuses on the near infrared spectrum?
Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by jessriedel on Thursday September 17, 2020 @09:27PM (#24511992)
The deep field images are not a significant fraction of the total scientific output of Hubble.
Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by tdy721 on Thursday September 17, 2020 @09:42PM (#24512074)
Nope, they are the icons of the project. Images from the edge of reality.

They significantly impacted how I grew up seeing the universe though, and I’m sure I’m not alone on this.

Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by jessriedel on Friday September 18, 2020 @03:54AM (#24514103)
In that case, you're arguing that a greater fraction of time with scientific instruments should be devoted to publicly consumable results. That's fine; I mostly agree. But that's not the claim under discussion, which is whether we would have much more total scientific impact if we had many more Hubbles.
Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by sephamorr on Thursday September 17, 2020 @06:13PM (#24510625)
Definitely agree. However, the long tail will likely include discovering some more 'improbably' results. For example, the researchers who ultimately discovered Phosphine on Venus this week had early requests for observation time on telescopes denied and seemed to have to have been extremely persistent to finally get their chance.
Re:Hubble Captures Crisp New Image of Jupiter and Europa by dwaltrip on Thursday September 17, 2020 @06:32PM (#24510780)
There is definitely a very long, fat tail with scientific research. I think this one of the most under-appreciated aspects of science.

That and the countless unexpected insights and connections between seemingly unrelated pieces of knowledge that can happen long after an initial discovery.