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Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by Balgair on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @03:19PM (#24485551)
I'm not sure what the actual name of the phenomenon is but I've heard it call 'wife-name-last name' syndrome.

Basically, the uber rich want to be seen as something more than just money. Guys like Anschutz and whatnot. There seems to be a pattern where they get a new shiny glass and steel building with a bunch of sick kids in it, and then they put the wife's name, an ampersand, his name, and the last name in big 3-D letters on the side. Likely it's a tax writeoff.

Also, not to be too cynical, but it's not a bad thing overall. The money could be sitting in the Caymans afterall.

Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by wang_li on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @04:52PM (#24486573)
> Likely it's a tax writeoff.

You can take $1 and pay the taxes on it and end up with $0.60. Or you can give away a dollar and not have to pay $0.40 in taxes. But you still gave away a dollar, so you're sixty cents in the hole.

Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by mensetmanusman on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @03:38PM (#24485785)
Most of the worlds money is sitting in the Cayman’s after-all, or hidden away as art investments inside of storage containers.
Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by kbenson on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @06:10PM (#24487318)
> or hidden away as art investments inside of storage containers.

That doesn't make any sense. They pay for that art, and the money goes to the people that owned the art previously. Either they stick it into an account in the Caymans, or a regular/investment account, or they just have it available, but purchasing assets with it is not money hidden away as an art investment.

A significant amount of wealth may be in assets, but that's the same for most people that's aren't poor (i.e. that own a house). The money used to purchase those assets is still circulating though.

Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by srpinto on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @03:41PM (#24485830)
Is it really? Where can I read about it?
Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by TheOtherHobbes on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @03:58PM (#24486027)
Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by refurb on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @08:42PM (#24488401)
I don't see anything to suggest "it's most of the world's wealth". Do you have another source?
Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by hindsightbias on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @04:22PM (#24486296)
Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by renewiltord on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @03:40PM (#24485817)
Well, obviously it's a tax deduction. You can do the same if you itemize.
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Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by orangejewce on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @04:02PM (#24486073)
Wow dude, if you're going to be anti-semitic, just do it. Don't bother trying to be "cute", or "subtle" using emojis. Really pathetic.
Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by laingc on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @04:37PM (#24486420)
Not doubting you for a second[0], but I didn’t see anything anti-Semitic in that post, so am I missing some internet meme or American cultural reference?

[0] Footnote in case it is necessary: antisemitism must be stamped out wherever it is found.

Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by mrosett on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @04:45PM (#24486503)
Many delis are Jewish. He's saying that whenever he sees buildings named after people, he's in a Jewish neighborhood. In context, it plays into nasty stereotypes about Jews being obsessed with money.
Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by aballoonaway on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @05:13PM (#24486767)
I don't think that was the meaning of the gp post. If you're traveling, names on buildings or businesses tend to reflect the population of that area. Thus, if you're in an area with a large Jewish population, you can expect to see buildings/businesses that reflect that too. Antisemitism is a real issue, but this is just not it. I am Jewish by the way, if that matters.
Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by stormbrew on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @05:32PM (#24486949)
The post didn't say "when I see a lot of jewish names on buildings I know I'm in a Jewish neighborhood," it said "when I'm in a neighborhood with a lot of names on the buildings I know I'm in a Jewish neighborhood" (both paraphrases to keep the dogwhistly deli->jewish link clear). The implication that Jewish people are uniquely interested in showing off their money and status through naming rights donations seems pretty blatant to me.
Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by laingc on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @12:03AM (#24489432)
Ok, interesting. I would usually be willing to give much more benefit of the doubt, but given how unnecessary the comment seemed to the rest of the post, I guess the obvious conclusion is a dog whistle.
Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by myself248 on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @05:34PM (#24498234)
Wow, okay, that's not the response I expected to come back to. I'm trying to understand how you interpreted my comment that way.

To be clear, there were no intentional dog-whistles in my post. I thought I was saying something strongly positive, about a phenomenon which I've observed and have great admiration for.

However, your response and the thread that followed, reveals some things I clearly didn't consider. There is surely a lot of anti-semitism out there, and that my comment was mistaken for it, I think shows how pervasive it must be. And it's important, as has been said, to call it out wherever it appears. And I guess that means looking for even tiny hints of double meanings. Which, logically, includes meanings that someone may not be cognizant of when speaking with one meaning in mind. I honestly thought I was being "cute" with the deli thing.

I'm astonished and saddened to see a well-intentioned comment identified as just the opposite. I didn't mean to play into any negative stereotypes about money -- I didn't say anything about being obsessed with money, and if I got near it at all, I was talking about being recognized for _doing good things_ (with money), and how this cultural pattern does that. I think that's pretty clearly positive! (The whole point of the article, after all, was that more people with money should be committed to doing good things with it. Money's a pretty unavoidable aspect here.) But clearly my comment exists in a world where a lot of terrible things also exist, and I guess I can see how it could be mistaken for a vague hint towards one of those terrible things.

Especially on the internet, where tone and nuance are notoriously tricky.

So I'm honestly looking for input. Is there a better way to say what I was trying to say?

Regardless, I'm sorry that you saw something negative in what I said. I'm even more sorry that anti-semitism is so insidious that you had reason to look for negative interpretations in the first place. That sucks.

Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by progman32 on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @04:31PM (#24486373)
For those who can't spot the subtlety, can you explain what you mean?
Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by mrosett on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @04:45PM (#24486505)
Many delis are Jewish. He's saying that whenever he sees buildings named after people, he's in a Jewish neighborhood. In context, it plays into nasty stereotypes about Jews being obsessed with money.
Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by progman32 on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @05:05PM (#24486688)
Thank you.
Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by totalZero on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @04:57PM (#24486617)
To be fair, cultures have characteristics and people should be permitted by their peers to talk about those characteristics in a thoughtful way.

I'm not familiar with what the other guy is describing, nor do I have any opinion on this particular topic. I'm just saying that "people of X culture tend to do Y thing more than the average person" is not in itself a hateful or disrespectful comment.

Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by oefnak on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @05:27PM (#24486888)
I think you're reading into it too much. He specifically said he thinks it is not a bad thing. In your opinion, is it possible to say anything about your culture without being anti-semitic?
Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by IfOnlyYouKnew on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @07:37PM (#24487945)
Then why did they feel the need to obfuscate?
Re:Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke by totalZero on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @11:46AM (#24493765)
If so, the point of view in the comment wasn't obfuscated very effectively, considering that we are all talking about it.