Re:Sir David Attenborough makes stark warning about species ...
by dredmorbius on Monday September 14, 2020 @04:08PM
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"It Is Not Enough to Succeed; One’s Best Friend Must Fail"
Gore Vidal's vversion is well-known: "It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail."
Re:Sir David Attenborough makes stark warning about species ...
by darepublic on Monday September 14, 2020 @06:27PM
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In a survival of the fittest this makes perfect sense
Re:Sir David Attenborough makes stark warning about species ...
by frereubu on Monday September 14, 2020 @03:21PM
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I hadn’t thought about it like this before, but that’s like a twisted version of Kahneman & Tversky’s “losses loom larger than gains.” I wonder if the psychological weighting mechanism is the same.
Re:Sir David Attenborough makes stark warning about species ...
by anigbrowl on Monday September 14, 2020 @04:04PM
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I think you'll find this paper very interesting, as it distinguishes between pessimistic loss aversion and sadistic loss infliction.
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/2/8/e1600451
Re:Sir David Attenborough makes stark warning about species ...
by petercooper on Monday September 14, 2020 @04:23PM
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If my reading of that paper is fair, it suggests a third of people deliberately make choices that cause other people to suffer more than they do even if it increases their own suffering by a lesser amount. And that is terrifying.
Re:Sir David Attenborough makes stark warning about species ...
by fzzzy on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @12:25AM
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I think this explains the state of the world, and given the state of the world: why is this surprising to us.
I guess people tend to believe that everyone else is like them, including those of us that aren't sadistic. And if a full 33 percent are sadistic, is it something that even should or can be corrected?
Now that's terrifying.
However, it is much better to simply look at a flower and meditate on how amazing it is that it exists at all than ruminate on the facts of how cruel the world is.
Re:Sir David Attenborough makes stark warning about species ...
by anigbrowl on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @01:31AM
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This educational game has some useful insights. While the distribution of people may not be something that can be corrected or easily altered (one disturbing insight of that Science paper is that personality types seem to be firmly established even in early youth), sadistic policies can be made more costly and thus less effective, reducing the incentive to maintain and reproduce them.
There's a certain personality type that derives more pleasure from the loss of another than a gain of their own.