Re:Google says its carbon footprint is now zero
by haxnewsben on Monday September 14, 2020 @12:09PM
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The idea is though, once the low hanging fruit of cheap offsetting dries up, causing offsets to become more expensive, the more appealing the price of carbon neutral energy becomes.
Say now the reason people still burn coal is because it's cheap and you can offset it cheaply, once offestting becomes more expensive, you may as well spend the same total amount, but buy green energy instead of coal+an offest.
Re:Google says its carbon footprint is now zero
by throwaway894345 on Monday September 14, 2020 @12:22PM
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Absolutely. Carbon offsets are a pretty cool solution, but I really want border-adjusted carbon taxes (border adjustment is a tax on imports from countries without a carbon tax so we don't just ship our carbon emitting work overseas). I favor carbon taxes because they're mandatory and more fool-proof (it's easier to measure carbon emitted than carbon that is not emitted).
Re:Google says its carbon footprint is now zero
by namdnay on Monday September 14, 2020 @11:42AM
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Ahhhh I thought the offsets were "standalone positives" , like planting trees. Indeed if an offset can be helping others reduce, it's definitely a lower cost (and less scalability, as you point out)
Re:Google says its carbon footprint is now zero
by throwaway894345 on Monday September 14, 2020 @12:13PM
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Yeah, I had the same experience when I learned about this stuff. It's really interesting; the trick is quality assurance--making sure that the carbon offset you buy actually represents 1 ton of carbon being removed from the atmosphere, or more commonly 1 ton that would have been added to the atmosphere but won't be on account of your offset. As far as I can tell, the difficulty of QA is the only valid criticism of offsets.
In other words, if the whole world were trying to offset its carbon emissions, the price per offset would rise dramatically.