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Re:Nikola: How to Parlay an Ocean of Lies into a Partnership... by justapassenger on Thursday September 10, 2020 @10:29PM (#24438599)
What they install now is Chinese solar roof. What they Elon showed during presentation was 100% fake.

"Still, the company does acknowledge that the demos Musk unveiled at Universal Studios were not functional"

(https://www.fastcompany.com/40422084/inside-steel-pulse-the-...)

Re:Nikola: How to Parlay an Ocean of Lies into a Partnership... by risyachka on Friday September 11, 2020 @01:48AM (#24439547)
Not yet manufactured doesn't is not the same as fake.
Re:Nikola: How to Parlay an Ocean of Lies into a Partnership... by etripe on Friday September 11, 2020 @07:29AM (#24441527)
Would a business offering food replicators (the Trek kind that materialise energy into food) seem fraudulent to you? Would they be selling a fake product or just not have manufactured it yet?
Re:Nikola: How to Parlay an Ocean of Lies into a Partnership... by Nasrudith on Friday September 11, 2020 @03:40PM (#24446528)
The difference is intent. A company could be run by a crackpot who sincerely believes that he can create a food replicator and states irrelevant qualifications. His process involves spending day after day drawing paper schematics and putting it in a literal black box. It would never work and couldn't be manufactured but it wouldn't be fraud.

Making the same claims of goals and taking the money and running? Fraud.

Re:Nikola: How to Parlay an Ocean of Lies into a Partnership... by foobiekr on Friday September 11, 2020 @02:21PM (#24445722)
What, in your mind, is fraud if announcing fake products as real does not qualify?