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Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by anm89 on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @04:49PM (#24413166)
It's as if Apple is on a mission to destroy the credibility and respect they had.
Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by bhouston on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @05:01PM (#24413316)
From a contractual standpoint outside of emotion, I think Apple will absolutely destroy Epic Games' position here in court.

The only think Epic Games can hope for at this point is for the court to find Apple is a monopoly and engaging in unfair business practices but I think that type of finding isn't even in the court's purview -- I think that anti-trust needs to be a suit from the US government? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor....

Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by heckerhut on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @06:32PM (#24414366)
In Europe, private companies can sue based on anti competitive behavior. It’s not limited to government agencies. Makes sense if you think about it. I’d assume it’s similar in the states.
Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by rvz on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @05:39PM (#24413775)
> I think that anti-trust needs to be a suit from the US government?

Probably, but I'm not a legal professional. But it is has actually happened before so maybe if the case for anti-trust is clear for Apple, it 'may' escalate to the US Government.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._AT%26T

Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by pier25 on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @11:19PM (#24416652)
Maybe Apple will win in court, but it is losing trmendously in the dev and gamer space. I'm sure this was Epic's plan all along.
Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by Razengan on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @11:57PM (#24416935)
Many non-Apple users are sick of Epic's wolf-crying too, and companies bigger than Epic have tried smearing Apple before (see Samsung).

Meanwhile, Apple is enjoying hereto-unseen levels of financial and critical success.

The only things the majority of regular people are paying attention to is when the next iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, AirPods etcetera are going to drop.

Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by pier25 on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @12:54AM (#24417271)
Not sure what your point is.

It sounds like you're saying that companies should better not mess with Apple and that financial success puts you above criticism.

Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by Razengan on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @05:11AM (#24418968)
> I'm sure this was Epic's plan all along.

> Not sure what your point is.

Epic Games Asks Court to Allow Fortnite Back on the App Store: https://www.macrumors.com/2020/09/05/epic-injuction-fortnite...

Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by adsjhdashkj on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @04:54PM (#24413231)
I felt like every poor quality controlled release they've had on OSX for the last 10 years has been trying to do that.

I feel lost. Wanting to have a simple OS that lets me develop with unix tools but also "just works". The expense i pay for Apple products no longer follows this, for me.

Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by vondur on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @05:47PM (#24413874)
Every MacOS release is buggy for the initial versions. It usually takes to .3 release to be relatively big bug free. Catalina seems to be pretty nice now, but the next version is just around the corner.
Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by quenix on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @05:11PM (#24413428)
Apart from Catalina, I’ve been satisfied with macOS release quality.
Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by Razengan on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @11:58PM (#24416944)
Big Sur is already a big improvement, even in beta, over Catalina.
Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by rriepe on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @04:58PM (#24413278)
Solus has been this for me
Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by neau on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @05:11PM (#24413427)
Elementary OS for me.
Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by rimliu on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @05:10PM (#24413425)
What stops you from using other OSes with much better quality control?
Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by adsjhdashkj on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @12:54PM (#24422979)
Nothing - if i knew of any.

All the Linux OSs i've tried is a mixed bag. A gamble. And i have a terrible experience with windows currently, so even ignoring Unix, Windows doesn't seem like an option.

I'll probably give Linux another try, i'm just concerned of driver issues primarily. Finding the right hardware, having trackpads and graphics cards not suck, etc.

Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by mhh__ on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @05:02PM (#24413326)
I agree. Apple are pretty much the only company in the world with the money, engineering knowledge, and clout to do a privacy first open ecosystem. On an Apple product you are free only to what Apple says is Kosher, why? Their customers will buy anything apple does, why not just go for it and be more open?
Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by valuearb on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @02:50AM (#24418022)
Because customers love the walled garden. An open version of iPhone would be a disaster for Apple and its developers.
Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by jhasse on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @05:56PM (#24413974)
money
Re:Apple countersues Epic, seeks punitive damages by m3kw9 on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @05:42PM (#24413819)
If they don’t fight back they lose all respect.