See, everyone is different. My phone never comes close enough to my bathroom to end up in the toilet or the bathtub.

It shouldn't be this all-or-nothing approach. We need choice and diversity in these markets. Same applies to screen sizes, btw — everyone's different, some people do watch video on their phone, some are disgusted by the very idea of it.

> It shouldn't be this all-or-nothing approach

I dont understand your point, so you want companies to build two types of devices, one which is not water resistant/proof but can be easily repaired and another device which is water resistant but hard to repair?

He wants a diverse market with options. Not 3 companies telling you what to do.

There are lots of companies manufacturing phones not just 3.

Yes but there's not much diversity in the phones themselves. Whichever company you choose, you're most likely getting an impenetrable giant glass slab.

> Whichever company you choose, you're most likely getting an impenetrable giant glass slab.

Which is probably a good indication that the market for other styles of devices is quite small, right?

> Yes but there's not much diversity in the phones themselves.

There used to lots of diversity but after the Iphone the market wants an impenetrable giant glass slab.

> It shouldn't be this all-or-nothing approach.

Agreed. It's shame that all Android device manufacturers similar devices.

>> common situations as: sitting in the bathtub

What? ...what?!

Please tell me you're kidding. I would never, nor do I know anyone who would ever - be so shockingly daft as to use a phone or tablet in the bathtub. Come on. Even if it was 'waterproof', I still would be too paranoid to see it as a shocking hazard...we learn as kids not to put electronics in the bath; at least everyone I know did...

On the toilet, all the time. In the bathtub?! Let's give human beings some credit. We're not daft.

Waterproofing is ideally for the time you accidentally drop your phone into the toilet, and that alone. Just because it's gotten really great doesn't mean people's attitudes on this has suddenly changed.

Electronics and water don't mix. I can't imagine sitting in the bathtub with an iPhone, iPad or laptop. Nor could I imagine anyone I know doing so. o.o

Unless it's plugged in to charge, or otherwise hooked up to something with a cable, it should be safe to use your phone in the bathtub. Though, I'm not condoning this life choice.

Amazon knows that people read in the bathtub and want to continue doing so in the age of ebooks, which is one of the main reasons why recent Kindle generations are advertised as waterproof. You misunderstand the risk involved; a sealed low-voltage device is not a toaster connected to the mains.

Live a little. One of the great ways to relax in life is reading hacker news in a warm tub of water. Instead of mocking it you should try it. Of course most tubs are not big enough for adults so this isn't easy.