Re:More than half of 18 to 29-year-olds in the US are living...
by jelliclesfarm on Sunday September 06, 2020 @02:44PM
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Military breaks one down and the. rebuilds the person acc to specs. Very few people have a self determined life after military service. It is sad.
Many in industry and service sector who are ‘company men’ and never quit their first job until retirement also face the same problem. Double edged sword.
Re:More than half of 18 to 29-year-olds in the US are living...
by austincheney on Sunday September 06, 2020 @06:41PM
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As a military person myself this description does not apply to anyone I have ever met.
Re:More than half of 18 to 29-year-olds in the US are living...
by jelliclesfarm on Sunday September 06, 2020 @07:44PM
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That makes you an unreliable narrator to opine on it.
Re:More than half of 18 to 29-year-olds in the US are living...
by austincheney on Monday September 07, 2020 @01:55AM
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Then who is a reliable narrator?
Re:More than half of 18 to 29-year-olds in the US are living...
by jelliclesfarm on Monday September 07, 2020 @01:47PM
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Someone who has married or has lived with or has employed or is an employee of someone who was in the military etc. AND who hasn’t been in the military themselves.
in other words, the objectivity has to come from someone who has been on the receiving end without having been part of the system.
For example: If I am Indian and I have an accent. Whether it’s understandable to Americans should be deemed by Americans. Not Indians.
Re:More than half of 18 to 29-year-olds in the US are living...
by ryanwaggoner on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @02:25PM
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Are you arguing that being in the military not only robs one of the ability to live a "self-directed life", but also the ability to even recognize what that is?
Re:More than half of 18 to 29-year-olds in the US are living...
by jelliclesfarm on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @11:27PM
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I am saying that conformity And obeying orders is an essential attribute of military training.
Re:More than half of 18 to 29-year-olds in the US are living...
by austincheney on Thursday September 10, 2020 @04:29AM
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That is a false stereotype attributed by people who have no access to the military and no experience with it. In what job do you not follow orders?
If anything I am decidedly (perhaps obcessively) less conformist than most developers I have worked with BECAUSE of my military experience.
I also had the freedom of nobody knowing or caring where I went and how late I came home (=greater responsibility for planning my time).
But I understand what you mean - i had a childhood friend who went to a 2 years vocational school after highschool (during which he lived at home) and then enlisted in the army for 4-5 years (in a non-combat technical role). I suspect the army basically takes care of you when you live on base because afterwards he moved back home & I got the feeling he pretty much stayed stuck in a child role for years later (may be complicated by mental health issues).
I think never having had to really be completely responsible for himself held him back.