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Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by edw519 on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @07:25AM (#2436695)
Original author here.

This was a little side project to have some fun and maybe spread a little value.

I frantically threw this together over the weekend to be ready for the traffic Marc Cenedella (CEO of TheLadders.com) promised me today. His posts:

http://twitter.com/cenedella/status/57759591789887489#

and

http://www.cenedella.com/job-search/leonardo-da-vincis-resum...

Thank you, Marc.

As many of you know, I spend most of my time writing software and generally resist spending time writing other stuff (even though I always find time to say something here). So in typical hacker fashion, I "launched" what I had with the intention of accepting feedback and iterating. You guys have always been really good at that.

I originally planned on a Kindle ebook, but Scribd was just so much easier for me. I didn't realize that others had problems viewing or purchasing. If you're outside the U.S. or have any other problems reading the sample, just email me and I'll send you a free pdf.

All of your feedback is greatly appreciated. I'll keep updating the content as I go and will gladly accept help with typesetting or distributing. I plan to follow up with some of you during one of my breaks today.

If you buy the book and don't like it, I will buy you a cup of coffee the next time we are together. If you buy it and do like it, make that a beer.

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by imajes on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @09:26AM (#2437058)
@edw519: send me an original editable format of the book and i'll typeset it for you.

[email protected]

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by crocowhile on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @09:58AM (#2437184)
edw, do this and give this guy some cut. The scribd version is awful (at least on my screen: http://i.min.us/iksKDk.png
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by messel on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @01:22PM (#2438161)
I just bought the book, but would like a readability upgrade :D
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by ajaimk on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @06:40PM (#2439703)
I'd like to typeset the document for you. I'm planning on printing this out for a paperback myself and will be doing it anyways.

If you can send me an editable document ([email protected] - I've already bought a copy too on scribd), that would make it a lot easier. I'm a college student who ran the layout and design department for a magazine, so I have some experience in this.

Also, find it amusing that 1 of the first questions in this book was a comment for a question I had asked on HN ;-)

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by messel on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @01:53PM (#2438313)
Glad you put in the work to organize your comments. I've only caught a tiny slice of your input, but it's clear you really love what you do.

I hope you reconsider your ideas on code sharing, it's amazing how much one can learn on blogs and github. I started doing a little part time web programming in 2009 after a decade of strictly c++ simulation and analysis and would be lost without experienced folks (many teenagers) sharing their insights on practical web development.

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by mrjbq7 on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @06:15PM (#2439597)
I just bought the book, but really dislike the formatting. Some suggestions:

- use portrait instead of landscape format

- use typical US Letter (8.5 x 11) or A4 size.

- typeset with nice fonts

- remove the "customize", "free license", and advertising for your conversion software

I'd love an upgrade if you get around to doing this.

Thanks,

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by d0m on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @07:45AM (#2436742)
Great idea. I've looked into it and there are little gems down there.
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by loboman on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @11:08AM (#2437502)
Yes, this provides value. Thanks, edw519!
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by pero on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @04:37AM (#2436411)
Hate to be the bearer of bad news--perhaps somewhat mitigated by the lack of hardcopies--but it's 'foreword' and not 'forward'.

That is, unless this is either some technolingo or inside joke that I'm not privy to.

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by cosgroveb on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @12:57PM (#2438022)
"I never publish my code. Ever. Users get to give me feedback, but I don't care what other programmers think. Sure, I learn from them, but never in the context of reviewing the code I wrote. I learn from the code of others and apply those lessons to my own work."

You can, of course, do whatever you want but this seems awfully selfish... Essentially saying that you will take whatever others (foolishly?) give in open source, blog posts, etc., etc., but never give back. Am I reading this correctly?

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by edw519 on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @02:44PM (#2438541)
Am I reading this correctly?

No.

1. Almost everything I ever wrote is proprietary. I couldn't legally share it if I wanted to.

2. I have never taken anyone else's code. In fact, I have rarely even ever read anyone else's code. To me, someone else's source code might as well be object code. "learning from them" means getting feedback without getting code. Others make suggestions. I write my code.

3. I prefer these analogies: You can eat in my dining room without going into my kitchen. You can enjoy my wardrobe without watching me get dressed. You can watch the movie or read the book without watching either being made. And you can provide feedback about any of them that can be accepted and used.

My source code is private. My customer list is private. My address book is private. My current location is private. My personal schedule is private. You can, of course, share whatever private information you want, but calling my choices "awfully selfish" is myopic and misinformed.

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by crocowhile on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @04:22PM (#2439063)
>I have never taken anyone else's code.

This is REALLY hard to believe. Also, god bless the person who thought me to use other people's code.

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by cosgroveb on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @02:46PM (#2438552)
Thanks for that honest answer. You're right, calling your choices "awfully selfish" is perhaps going a bit too far.
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by rb2k_ on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @05:35AM (#2436500)
I think I'd really enjoy the read.

It would have been a bit nicer if the great comments were accompanied by some good design/typesetting (generate latex?) and an alternative format (epub).

There are a few solutions based on princeXML that can take easily generatable HTML+CSS and convert it to pdf (example: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/boom ).

While the Prince license might not be the cheapest, there also is a webservice that does the conversion (http://docraptor.com/tour)

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by wladimir on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @05:38AM (#2436510)
Another vote for EPUB. It has so many advantages to PDF for screen reading... for example, automatic reflowing to the size of the window.
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by dpapathanasiou on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @10:03AM (#2437206)
You can also use eBookBurn (http://ebookburn.com/)

disclaimer: that site is run by my startup

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by lubos on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @06:08AM (#2436566)
docraptor.com looks like a paid version of wkhtmltopdf which is free
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by rb2k_ on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @12:09PM (#2437806)
docraptor.com uses princexml which theoretically could not only do HTML, but any XML based format. Prince does however include a default style sheet for XHTML and HTML seems to be the only input that docraptor accepts. Not sure what happens if you throw non XML conform HTML on Prince.
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by wallflower on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @09:13AM (#2437004)
Ed is one of the most prolific and valuable members of the HN community. That being said, I'd love for andrewwarner to do a Mixergy interview. Ed is not the typical Mixergy success though but we could all learn from his b2b success.
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by edw519 on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @09:24AM (#2437055)
Thank you, wallflower.

A few years ago, I did a Mixergy interview along with rms about Hacker News:

http://blog.mixergy.com/why-communities/

Andrew, if you're reading this, I would love to do another, not about my past projects, but about my next one. Stay tuned...

we could all learn from his b2b success

Hmmm, sounds like an idea for another ebook....

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by AndrewWarner on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @10:40AM (#2437386)
Yup. I'm reading this. Let's talk privately about how we could set it up. http://mixergy.com/contact
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by maxklein on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @05:02AM (#2436455)
He should do Amazon Kindle self-publishing and write about the sales numbers later.
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by epo on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @05:06AM (#2436461)
I'm not a US citizen and all I see is obfuscated content reminiscent of rot-13. Am I being slow this morning?
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by Schmidt on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @07:36AM (#2436722)
Try disabling noscript / enable javascript. I had the same problem
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by arthurk on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @05:35AM (#2436498)
I tried to read this but the Scribd reader hung up on me after a few pages and all I got to see were blank pages (I'm using FF4). Would it be possible to compile some of the comments in a "Sample.pdf" file and directly link to that instead?
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by nopassrecover on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @04:49AM (#2436429)
I just saw this in his profile yesterday, intend to buy.

EDIT: Apparently I need to be a US citizen. I'll find some other way to send him a donation.

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by joshuacc on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @09:38AM (#2437103)
I just purchased the book and it was totally worth the $2.56. Which, BTW, is a nice price. :-)

Comment #49 is a piece of advice that will pay for the book many times over, no matter what you do for a living.

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by DanielBMarkham on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @07:36AM (#2436723)
Congrats Ed! Good luck publishing!

I have a similar project, so I'd like to know how you decided which comments to pick, how you put them together, etc.

I'm working with the epub format right now. Not sure if I made the right choice or not, but it seemed like the best technical option to hit the most platforms. Never occurred to me to use Scribd.

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by edw519 on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @07:45AM (#2436739)
Thanks, Daniel.

My app gives 5 sort options

- by descending number of words, because short comments don't make good book entries

- by descending points, to take advantage of the feedback you guys already gave me

- by descending date, to grab the more applicable comments

- by descending weight, my own changeable formula, attempting to put the best stuff up front

- in output sequence, to get a feel for how the final product will flow

I say a little more about this in the foreword.

I also hope to clean up the app and make it available if anyone else wants to give it a try.

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by Tycho on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @08:27AM (#2436848)
I probably would have bought it for that price but it says United States only. Perhaps Gumroad or Hawtcakes would work? Or the Kindle store? (I heard you can instantly convert files to Kindle format by mailing them to [email protected])

Another site that I used to visit regularly, for about 7 or 8 years, had a poster who kept his own text-file of all the great posts he'd read over the years. Occassionally he would tease us by posting extracts (of course, everybody wanted to know how many of their comments made the cut) occassionally. But I always thought the file itself was probably worth actual money. And I keep forgetting to make a similar effort for other online communities (HN for instance. But you'd be here all day catching all the great coments on HN).

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by openczun on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @10:53AM (#2437431)
Jason Gilmore (@wjgilmore) has an interesting article on publishing a book using DocBook, and git for version control. http://www.wjgilmore.com/blog/entry/why_i_published_easy_php...

--

Also, I just bought Ed's book ... Really great commentary in there. Somewhat sad I've only been a member of the HN community for such a short time.

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by revorad on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @04:17AM (#2436372)
Thanks Ed! How did you make the ebook? I've been looking for a good app to convert blog feeds to books, but haven't found anything that just works.

If you send me an email I will be happy to put it up for sale on my new store (for free of course).

You might also want to try Sahil's http://gumroad.com.

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by pero on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @04:45AM (#2436425)
How the book was made is discussed in the 'forward'--which is viewable in the preview.
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by revorad on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @04:52AM (#2436437)
Thanks, that's an interesting read too!
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by piranha on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @04:52AM (#2436436)
Would be really nice to have this book on some different store, as you can't buy it from Scribd if you're not in USA. :(
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by rc55 on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @05:42AM (#2436519)
Just to confirm, you cannot purchase this from the United Kingdom either at this time.
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by WiseWeasel on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @04:48PM (#2439211)
This will sit nicely next to my Encyclopedia Weaselicus, available now for the low, low price of $3.59.
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by amitagrawal on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @03:50PM (#2438891)
Stuff like this should be made a compulsive reading for hackers.

This solves a very basic problem with hacker-related knowledge - you don't know what to search until you know what to search!

And books like Ed's solve this by compiling it all in one place. Someone here did one for pg's essays and other articles and the result was a 12+MB file good to last you a few days if you're at it.

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by MikeCampo on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @07:48AM (#2436749)
Great idea and I would love to buy it, but I'm not a US citizen :(
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by vkdelta on Wednesday April 13, 2011 @03:51AM (#2441195)
bought. read. Worth every penny 256 times.
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by m0th87 on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @10:40AM (#2437388)
About time :)
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by zyfo on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @04:00AM (#2436336)
Link to the actual book: http://www.scribd.com/doc/52729281/The-Best-Of-edw519

I really like this idea and will buy the book. However, it would be nice if the comments were time-stamped, as not all advice is timeless.

Anyone know of any other forum-comments-turned-book examples?

EDIT: I would buy it if I didn't have to be a US citizen to buy a digital book in scribd. Why is this a problem for a book like this?

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by tyng on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @05:14AM (#2436470)
Good find. I believe Amazon allows you to sell ebooks internationally, I could be wrong though.
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by electromagnetic on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @06:04AM (#2436558)
It does.
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by dereg on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @05:40AM (#2436515)
David Pogue crowd-sourced a book from Twitter. http://www.amazon.com/World-According-Twitter-David-Pogue/dp...
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by seanprice on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @06:03AM (#2436557)
perhaps the author can offer the ebook on their site/blog with a paypal payment for the PDF. Living in the UK and cannot purchase this at the mo.
Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by edw519 on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @07:36AM (#2436724)
I really like this idea and will buy the book. However, it would be nice if the comments were time-stamped, as not all advice is timeless.

I originally planned to provide a link to the original but decided to keep it simple.

Do you mean a link or the original date?

[EDIT: Original date done in next release. Thank you, zyfo.]

Re:Edw519 wrote a book compiling his best HN Comments by cookiecaper on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @06:10AM (#2436568)
Not quite a book, but most of the (unpublished) essays I write start out as simple forum posts.