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Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by alasdair_ on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @12:34AM (#24350006)
I had a driver tell me he’d get his friends to call in fake rides if things were slow, which meant that he got to the front faster. He was convinced everyone else was doing it too.

I did not leave a tip.

Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by dependenttypes on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @02:07AM (#24350456)
Is it common to give tips to taxi drivers?
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by closeparen on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @02:23AM (#24350551)
As with a waiter, failing to tip a cabbie is expressing extreme displeasure.

The stressful and annoying payment dance at the end of a cab ride was a not-insignificant factor in the rise of ridesharing.

Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by gambiting on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @04:49AM (#24351262)
It must be completely dependent on where you're from. Over here you tip neither waiters or cabbies. I have no idea why you'd tip the taxi driver at all. I'm glad that with Uber you can just pay through the app and that removes the stupid "just keep the change" attitude. Most other taxi companies are implementing their own apps with online payment nowadays so fortunately this habit is dying out(one can hope).
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by dependenttypes on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @04:24AM (#24351155)
Interesting, being a clueless european I thought that this was common only for waiters and deliverymen in the USA.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by dr_dshiv on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @04:46AM (#24351243)
You tip everyone in the USA. Hairdressers, handymen, babysitters, car mechanics, coffee baristas, bartenders, cab drivers.

Why should employers pay employees when their customers can do it for them?

Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by justusw on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @05:13AM (#24351380)
Wait... car mechanics too? If you’re already billed for human labor cost on your invoice, what percentage do you tip on top of that? How is it shared between employees of the shop?
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by navbaker on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:03AM (#24351660)
I have lived all over the US and have never tipped a car mechanic or heard of someone doing so.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by mwexler on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @09:15AM (#24352876)
Assuming you go to the same garage, and that the mechs are not the owners... Your car is one of many at the garage. You may have particular expectations on time or how you like your settings (specific wheel alignment, etc) A bit of extra "appreciation" means your car may get fixed earlier, and come back with a few extra things adjusted without being on the bill, along with extra care to meet your specific asks.

Or so I was told. I saw it more when I was younger than I do today.

Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by fakedang on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:13AM (#24353451)
And somehow I get that in the rest of the world by just being a regular customer, without paying a tip.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by genocidicbunny on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:10AM (#24352045)
I've never tipped a car mechanic. They bill their labor rates anyways, tipping in such circumstance should never be expected.

Generally, most tipping is at restaurants and bars/pubs. Hairdresses/barbers/salons is also very common because of the close personal interaction with the worker.

Most of the time you tip at businesses that would be expected to employ low-education, or poorer or immigrant workers (and by extension, more easily abused workers.) Restaurants, salons, car washes, etc, all tend to employ poorer, less educated people, and also tend to be highly tip-based businesses. So for the most part you're expected to tip at businesses that traditionally abuse and underpay their employees.

Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by projektfu on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:59AM (#24353898)
I’ve had great relationships with independent shops and only tip when they do something quick and don’t charge.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by dependenttypes on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:34AM (#24351830)
It seems weird that USA is in general more expensive than europe if this is the case.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by dr_dshiv on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @09:45AM (#24353148)
Yeah. Like why can I get a draft beer anywhere in Amsterdam for 3 euros MAX 4. At the top of the 5 star Okura hotel, beers are 4/5 euro. Of course, fancy beers can be 6 euros.

But in the USA, it is not uncommon to see Budlight selling for 8 dollars or more. (don't forget to tip!)

Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by t0mas88 on Thursday September 03, 2020 @02:45AM (#24361406)
Yes I noticed the same thing, but only in the cities. Cost of living there is generally higher and income is as well. If you go to a small town in the US a beer can be 3 dollars and a coffee 1.50 or so.

If they weren't using the same currency there would probably be difference in inflation due to very different economics between let's say New York and some tiny rural village.

Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by matt-attack on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:44AM (#24351896)
In the US it is also customary to NOT tip if the person performing the service is the business owner. Eg at a hair salon or similar.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by Insanity on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:27AM (#24352169)
Hairdressers and car mechanics? Really? :o
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by Qub3d on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:56AM (#24352335)
I've never tipped my mechanic, but I absolutely tip my hairdresser. I suppose it depends on the place, though.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by leemailll on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @08:20AM (#24352492)
>car mechanics

Really? I never know anyone doing this

Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by joncrane on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @08:02AM (#24352377)
Wait, deliverymen? I don't tip the UPS, FedEx, or USPS guys. The only type of person that comes to my house that I tip is the garbage guy, and only when I have a particularly large garbage pile to take out. They send out cards around Xmas with the official tipping procedure, but I do it whenever I have an onerous load, not at a certain time of year.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by mschuster91 on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @08:58AM (#24352735)
In Germany, dumpster staff is disallowed from taking cash tips due to corruption concerns: https://www.br.de/radio/bayern1/weihnachten-trinkgeld-postbo...
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by alistairSH on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @09:21AM (#24352925)
Is it common to give tips to taxi drivers?

In the US, yes.

People I regularly tip: - wait staff - barber - delivery service (for oversized packages/furniture delivered into my home, not general UPS/FedEx deliveries that are left on the doorstep) - taxi driver

It's a side effect of a low minimum wage. Most of the rest of the western world has the minimum set closer to a living wage.

Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by alasdair_ on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @01:38PM (#24355664)
Not much in the UK (which is where I was) but I usually tipped them anyway, unless they were jerks. In the USA it's much more expected.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by lwansbrough on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @02:23AM (#24350552)
In the US and Canada, very.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by gambiting on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @04:52AM (#24351279)
But why? I somewhat get the argument with waiters - they are paid shit wages, so somehow it became a cultural norm that customers have to subsidise waiters since their employers are too cheap to pay properly. Like, ok, I don't agree with it, but that's the system you build for yourself so that's the one you have to deal with.

But why taxi drivers? Why delivery drivers? Are those groups also poorly paid because they rely on tips? Why other social groups haven't adopted this? Are your electricians also charging $1 an hour of work and then expect that you leave a tip that saves them from poverty?

Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo... by alasdair_ on Thursday September 03, 2020 @04:24PM (#24368483)
I don’t understand why the person that hands you the food gets 20 percent yet the person who cooked it usually gets nothing.