Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo...
by mola on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @01:54AM
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If there's an algorithm in charge of optimizing, it will be gamed. If there's a single algorithm controlling a large population, it'll be catastrophically gamed.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo...
by piva00 on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:22AM
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There is a more general rule than that, I would tie that to Goodhart's law/adage "when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure".
It's similar here, when an algorithm is in charge of optimisation it has its heuristics, they will be gamed as they are measures that became a target.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo...
by Talanes on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @11:17PM
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This is such an obvious way to game the system though, if they had put literally any effort into trying to make a system that can't be abused, they would have caught it. Either the system wasn't thought through, or it was thought through by someone with no understanding of how groups of people behave.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo...
by mypalmike on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @11:46PM
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It's obvious that people will hang phones from trees?
The reason you're reading this on hn today is specifically because it is novel group behavior.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo...
by throwawaynothx on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @02:01AM
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Na he just means when developing something the first thing you try to do is think how can this be abused.
By handing out jobs to the closest device and not checking the last job that device received is poor programming.
It would be nice to have perfect knowledge beforehand of how an otherwise reasonable algorithm will be gamed once it's out in the wild.