Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo...
by cortesoft on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:19PM
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This sort of "unintended consequence of over precision" has happened a few times... I remember a while back a dating app (I think?) was returning the distance between the two people with a ridiculous amount of precision, which allowed people to triangulate where someone was with three phones
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo...
by cyral on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @07:02PM
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Here’s an article about how Tinder fixed it: https://robertheaton.com/2018/07/09/how-tinder-keeps-your-lo...
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo...
by cortesoft on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @07:17PM
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Oh man, I forgot they originally sent the actual location. I still can’t believe how many developers think you can trust the client.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo...
by badwolf on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @07:52PM
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Someone even made a triangulation app to pinpoint other users of Grindr.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo...
by Terr_ on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:57PM
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Aye, with Tinder, but no extra-devices or actual travel was needed: https://blog.includesecurity.com/2014/02/how-i-was-able-to-t...
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo...
by cortesoft on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @07:14PM
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Oh right, they just used the API.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo...
by pishpash on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @07:43PM
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Is "cutting the queue" (what this is) an unintended consequence of having a queue? It's perfectly normal behavior. Maybe it gets resolved socially, or the solution could involve tracking whether the follow-up movement happened as assumed (the real hidden assumption). Making a buffer and reducing precision doesn't solve anything actually, it makes it socially more difficult, but it's really a hack, as was choosing the closest physical phone whether a warm body was attached or not.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo...
by cortesoft on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:32PM
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I think if they randomly select someone with a range, it would make it not as important to try to be physically closer. It wouldn't stop all gaming of the system, but it would be a start.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo...
by hombre_fatal on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @09:21AM
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You'd want to tweak it so you were picking the person in range who went the longest without a gig rather than a naive random pick. Lot more encouraging for the workers vs watching the guy who just got a gig receive yet another before them.
Re:Amazon drivers are hanging smartphones in trees to get mo...
by stjohnswarts on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @01:17AM
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why not randomize selection of everyone within a certain radius rather than just "closest" ? That seems like it would be more fair.
The simplest solution is therefore that, yes, someone 10 feet away will get it before someone 20 feet away.
The developers would have to go out of their way to add a buffer zone, e.g. find the closest person, add 1,000 feet, find everyone within that range, then select randomly. Or create a "local zone" distance range and a queue. Or other options -- once you try to figure out "what's fair" it gets really complicated.
That extra code is only going to get written if it has to.
So there's nothing ridiculous about it at all. In fact it's the simplest, most expected solution.
Now that it's news, however, Amazon might actually come up with more sophisticated requirements.