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Re:Python setuptools v50 breaks pip installation on Debian/U... by zelphirkalt on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:02AM (#24340080)
And pipenv is getting better. Recently thete has been a push of improvement. It still has its issues though. Pipenv or Poetry? Time will tell. Poetry needs to parallelize.
Re:Python setuptools v50 breaks pip installation on Debian/U... by pydry on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:07AM (#24340105)
Last time I tried to use pipenv it was a mess. Poetry worked fine though.
Re:Python setuptools v50 breaks pip installation on Debian/U... by wirrbel on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:34AM (#24340270)
Yeah, trouble is it always depends on the system for me. At home, pipenv seems to work most reliably, at work I had more success with poetry...

Still, both poetry and pipenv work better for me than conda because they do have a lockfile mechanism which I find to be essential.

Re:Python setuptools v50 breaks pip installation on Debian/U... by ohazi on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:21AM (#24340183)
Wasn't pipenv abandoned for like a year or two? Is it actually back now?
Re:Python setuptools v50 breaks pip installation on Debian/U... by wirrbel on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:35AM (#24340280)
The original author has a habit of abandoning software projects after a while. But I think they managed to get it into the pypa docs (python packaging 'authority'), and so I guess someone has brought it back.
Re:Python setuptools v50 breaks pip installation on Debian/U... by arusahni on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @07:10AM (#24340522)
I believe, after some conflict with the community, the original author divested himself of all his F/OSS projects. This resulted in pipenv being donated to the pypa GitHub org. Since then, the project appears to be seeing sporadic development through community contributions.
Re:Python setuptools v50 breaks pip installation on Debian/U... by wirrbel on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @02:34AM (#24350603)
yeah, but also even before they were much more active in starting a project than interested in maintaining it.