And pipenv is getting better. Recently thete has been a push of improvement. It still has its issues though. Pipenv or Poetry? Time will tell. Poetry needs to parallelize.

Last time I tried to use pipenv it was a mess. Poetry worked fine though.

Yeah, trouble is it always depends on the system for me. At home, pipenv seems to work most reliably, at work I had more success with poetry...

Still, both poetry and pipenv work better for me than conda because they do have a lockfile mechanism which I find to be essential.

Wasn't pipenv abandoned for like a year or two? Is it actually back now?

The original author has a habit of abandoning software projects after a while. But I think they managed to get it into the pypa docs (python packaging 'authority'), and so I guess someone has brought it back.

I believe, after some conflict with the community, the original author divested himself of all his F/OSS projects. This resulted in pipenv being donated to the pypa GitHub org. Since then, the project appears to be seeing sporadic development through community contributions.

yeah, but also even before they were much more active in starting a project than interested in maintaining it.