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Re:PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition by vinay427 on Monday August 31, 2020 @08:55AM (#24330943)
There are a number of apps I use and depend on that work fine without Google services. Signal comes to mind, for instance. I agree that a better template would be great, but I can't imagine we'll get there anytime soon, and I would love to use my PinePhone as a daily driver in the near future. I won't do this without a few key apps that don't have direct alternatives considering some people with whom I would like to communicate only use these options.

I think getting people onto devices that support open and flexible alternatives is the first step to actually converting users to these alternatives. I won't switch to a platform that doesn't let me communicate with people I know, and I wouldn't expect others to do so either. However, I could get people to switch from a less convenient option (e.g. Signal on Anbox) to a more convenient option (e.g. Matrix for messaging) in time.

Re:PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition by pineyboi on Monday August 31, 2020 @02:51PM (#24334713)
There's some work being done to make Signal work more natively on Linux (though not from Moxie directly)

This is a daemon that provides an API for signal

https://git.callpipe.com/finn/signald

This is a libpurple plugin for it (Pidgin messenger, or even irssi, Weechat etc)

https://github.com/hoehermann/libpurple-signald

Chatty, the SMS messenger that works in Phosh also supports libpurple plugins, so presumably Signal could work alongside SMS (The SMS feature itself is a libpurple plugin IIRC)

https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/chatty

I've used libpurple-signald with irssi and it works alright. It's not feature complete yet by a long shot, but much nicer to interact with than the Electron bloat.

Re:PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition by finnn on Sunday September 13, 2020 @03:59AM (#24459246)
https://gitlab.com/thefinn93/signald/-/issues/52#note_406669... has some details about the issues running Chatty with libpurple-signald
Re:PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition by pineyboi on Sunday September 13, 2020 @02:20PM (#24462813)
Thanks for all your work!
Re:PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition by oropolo on Monday August 31, 2020 @09:12AM (#24331084)
> I agree that a better template would be great...

Is there a serious effort on this front? At the very least a mobile version of Electron[1] applications would be a great interim step: you just need a browser for the UI and performance-critical bits can be written in C/C++ for accuracy and speed. Ultimately a modular UI paradigm can replace the dependence on a browser but that is likely years down the road.

[1] Cordova used to be the model; Ionic's Capacitor project is far more advanced but targeting iOS and Android specifically.

Re:PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition by megous on Monday August 31, 2020 @02:13PM (#24334265)
You can run electron on PinePhone in fullscreen, it works as you'd expect.