Zoom is now critical infrastructure – that’s a concern

Re:Zoom is now critical infrastructure – that’s a concern by youeseh on Friday August 28, 2020 @12:46PM (#24307032)

For those that haven't tried Jitsi - my friends and I catch up on it almost daily. It is awesome.

The phone app is great too. You can setup a room that people can jump in and out of, which is pretty convenient.

If you're looking for that office feel for your small team, then Jitsi might be worth a shot.

And, I think you can host your own server if you'd like to!

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Re:Zoom is now critical infrastructure – that’s a concern by vz8 on Friday August 28, 2020 @12:52PM (#24307097)

We've tried Jitsi multiple times (as recently as a month ago) and the experience has been uniformly bad at anything beyond a handful of people. When we scaled to > 20 it was completely unusable (feedback / echos, delays, stuttering, dropouts, you name it).

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Re:Zoom is now critical infrastructure – that’s a concern by nessunodoro on Friday August 28, 2020 @01:50PM (#24307835)

Were you self-hosting, or using the free service? If self-hosting, I'm curious what resources you were devoting to your VPS, and which hosting provider?

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Re:Zoom is now critical infrastructure – that’s a concern by boudin on Friday August 28, 2020 @01:13PM (#24307379)

Was it with a self-hosted version or the meet.jit.si public instance? Around 20 we had the same problem on the public instances but I wonder how much is server side or limitation on the client side. It also definitely worked better in Chrome, it seems that the Firefox situation is much better now though. On Safari echo cancellation was just not working.

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Re:Zoom is now critical infrastructure – that’s a concern by freeone3000 on Friday August 28, 2020 @01:01PM (#24307213)

Jitsi makes one of my friend's MacBooks fan too loud so we can't use it.

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Re:Zoom is now critical infrastructure – that’s a concern by youeseh on Friday August 28, 2020 @06:47PM (#24311202)

Perhaps your friend would benefit from the phone app. I use it on an old iPhone SE and it works for hours without issue.

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Re:Zoom is now critical infrastructure – that’s a concern by choward on Friday August 28, 2020 @02:46PM (#24308558)

I know it's not ideal and not everyone has one, but couldn't your friend wear a headset so the microphone isn't right next to the fans?

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Re:Zoom is now critical infrastructure – that’s a concern by reaperducer on Friday August 28, 2020 @03:19PM (#24308895)

The problem isn't the user, it's the software.

I'm no Zoom fan, but in the Zoom meeting I had this morning with 38 people my 2015 MacBook Pro's processor peaked at 11%.

Zoom knows how to do something better than the other companies. They really need to catch up.

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Re:Zoom is now critical infrastructure – that’s a concern by sukilot on Friday August 28, 2020 @03:58PM (#24309271)

Would you say the same if the user was compiling software or rendering video?if your computer fan is interfering with audio, that's an audio setup problem not a software problem.

Wasting CPU/heat is a different problem.

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Re:Zoom is now critical infrastructure – that’s a concern by freeone3000 on Friday August 28, 2020 @11:55PM (#24313321)

Oh, no! She just doesn't use any software that makes the fan come on. Zoom doesn't, teams doesn't, jitsi somehow does.

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Re:Zoom is now critical infrastructure – that’s a concern by cwhiz on Friday August 28, 2020 @11:34PM (#24313198)

Buy new headset vs install other free software.

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Re:Zoom is now critical infrastructure – that’s a concern by thechao on Friday August 28, 2020 @12:51PM (#24307080)

Have you used Lifesize? I'm not fond of either Hangouts or Zoom.

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Re:Zoom is now critical infrastructure – that’s a concern by youeseh on Saturday August 29, 2020 @11:46AM (#24316882)

I have not tried Lifesize.

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