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Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by adwww on Thursday August 27, 2020 @04:48PM (#24298476)
Fridges are a huge opportunity - they could easily monitor the frequency of the mains supply and turn the pump off whenever load drops under 50hz.

Users would never even know, if they were factory wired with this kit the lights and any gadgets could continue to work.

Perhaps this should be something manufacturers have to include in order to get their A+++ energy rating.

Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by gdudeman on Thursday August 27, 2020 @06:12PM (#24299268)
There are lots of interesting things like this right now. For instance, there is work on hot water heaters that can store excess energy by heating water hotter when electricity is cheap and then mixing with cold water to maintain a constant temp throughout the day / night.
Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by natmaka on Friday August 28, 2020 @12:15AM (#24301302)
Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by londons_explore on Thursday August 27, 2020 @05:51PM (#24299108)
Using the grid frequency as a price signal seems to make perfect sense. A mapping table can be published of frequency to market price, and updated periodically. The prices for outer extremes of allowable system frequency should be "+Infinity" and "-Infinity" so there is never a situation that someone let's the grid frequency go outside allowable bounds for business reasons.

Then home users can use devices with very basic built in electronics to save money or even earn money on electricity bills.

Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by rleigh on Thursday August 27, 2020 @06:31PM (#24299437)
It makes sense as a concept. In practice, it may lead to very unfortunate feedback effects if deployed at scale.
Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by sbierwagen on Thursday August 27, 2020 @07:15PM (#24299741)
Use low-precision frequency references, then. At scale it'll smear out the demand spike.
Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by londons_explore on Friday August 28, 2020 @03:00AM (#24302110)
Except it's negative feedback... Which increases system stability.
Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by NicoJuicy on Thursday August 27, 2020 @05:58PM (#24299148)
You still need to centralize this though.