Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft
by geokon on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @09:42PM
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Is there a reason why small aircraft don't just use a car engine (with some appropriate gearing I guess)? Those have had so much R&D in them and they're pretty much as efficient as you can get - plus much easier to maintain and repair
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Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft
by Czarcasm on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @10:10PM
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Automotive engines are designed to produce power at a wide range of operating speeds, at the detriment of peak power output and peak efficiency. Aircraft engines can take advantage of the fact that they will be operating at a single RPM range for most of their life, which allows you to optimize every single aspect of the system for that speed. Aircraft engines also have much, much higher reliability, lifecycle, and quality control requirements than automotive engines.
For these reasons and a few others, you would basically end up redoing most of the engineering work on an automotive engine to repurpose it for aerospace applications, thus negating the savings of reusing the existing design.
Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft
by m4rtink on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @10:29PM
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But you can do it the other way around, resulting in the M4 Sherman. :-)
Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft
by Skunkleton on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @09:44PM
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Reliability would be my first concern. Power to weight is likely an issue as well. Here is some more info I found:
https://www.flyingmag.com/aircraft/do-car-engines-make-good-...
Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft
by Shacklet0n on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @11:05PM
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Although probably not the majority, many experimental aircraft do use car engines. I'm building a Zenith 750 kit aircraft and installing an engine from a company called Aeromomentum who convert Suzuki engines for use in light aircraft. The model I have installed is a 117HP engine originally designed for use as boat outboard motor. A sibling comment mentions that car engines aren't designed to operate continuously at high power. Outboards are. And there are benefits to using highly developed and tested engines vs traditional aircraft engines - efficiency being the most obvious.
Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft
by baybal2 on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @10:22PM
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Read the many reasons below, but one big one not named is that auto engines are not designed to be operated at near peak power constantly.
Auto engines are severely derated for use in airplanes, and then all of the advantage is gone.
Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft
by xkcd-sucks on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @10:31PM
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Some do, but not many
http://www.epi-eng.com/aircraft_engine_products/big-block_62...
Re:The potentially revolutionary Celera 500L aircraft
by jasonwatkinspdx on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @10:52PM
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They do, though it requires some conversion to meet reliability requirements and to optimize for cruise. Over the years the Subaru boxer engines have been a popular starting point.