> We started putting armed police in schools to defend against school shootings. Not to intimidate students.

Tell that to the 8yr old who had his elbows cuffed painfully behind his back by the school officer because he misbehaved.

What does any of that have to do with surveillance?

Are you referencing something specific?

Please don't do political/nationalistic flamewars like this on HN. When things get to this stage, curious conversation died a long time ago.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> generally far more rebellious culture.

Since the first English settlement in North America, America has had one successful regime change, China has had 3. It's rich seeing people who think standing around on the pavement and waiting for the police to come beat you is rebellion try to lecture others about "rebelliousness".