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Re:Global Mass Surveillance – The Fourteen Eyes by casraso on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @03:57PM (#24275394)
Americans like to think they are immune to propaganda, or that for some reason other countries produce more of it than they do. What I have observed as someone not living in china or america is that they are roughly on equal footing and produce about as much deceptive trash as any other country, my own included. This means you will have a lot of americans answering your question by saying that america does less surveillance, not understanding after all the years of pledging allegiance to the flag and having armed police in their schools, that they are very very similar to china and it would be naive to assume they are not being watched as much.

It is also unlikely they even know what happens in china to a good extent because china itself is not very communicative; they still report the same covid stats since march, for example, and their government websites are full of broken links. It is hard for me to get accurate info on china even from news sites, I wouldn't trust what most people say.

All that said I think China is worse, but Americans would have you believe the difference is gigantic.

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Re:Global Mass Surveillance – The Fourteen Eyes by justanotherc on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @09:31PM (#24278140)
> We started putting armed police in schools to defend against school shootings. Not to intimidate students.

Tell that to the 8yr old who had his elbows cuffed painfully behind his back by the school officer because he misbehaved.

Re:Global Mass Surveillance – The Fourteen Eyes by casraso on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @05:54PM (#24276628)
What does any of that have to do with surveillance?
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Re:Global Mass Surveillance – The Fourteen Eyes by xster on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @02:26AM (#24279740)
Are you referencing something specific?
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Re:Global Mass Surveillance – The Fourteen Eyes by dang on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @05:57PM (#24287757)
Please don't do political/nationalistic flamewars like this on HN. When things get to this stage, curious conversation died a long time ago.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Global Mass Surveillance – The Fourteen Eyes by knolax on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @06:37PM (#24277086)
> generally far more rebellious culture.

Since the first English settlement in North America, America has had one successful regime change, China has had 3. It's rich seeing people who think standing around on the pavement and waiting for the police to come beat you is rebellion try to lecture others about "rebelliousness".