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Re:Amazon is delivering nearly two-thirds of its own packages by notatoad on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @04:36PM (#24275801)
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nicolenguyen/environmen...

it's not a direct answer, but it seems like the answer is that it's essentially never more environmentally friendly to order online, because the odds that it actually eliminates a trip in your car are so tiny.

Re:Amazon is delivering nearly two-thirds of its own packages by kelnos on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @04:46PM (#24275900)
I imagine I'm atypical, but if I had to drive somewhere to pick up my online orders, my monthly car trips would go up between one and two orders of magnitude. But I do order a decent quantity of things on Amazon (for non-urgent things I use the "Amazon day" delivery option to help reduce their trips), and generally dislike driving and try to drive as little as possible (1-3 trips per week; pre-covid I could go weeks without driving).

I'd be curious to know what the environmental numbers are for someone like me.

Re:Amazon is delivering nearly two-thirds of its own packages by abdullahkhalids on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @05:29AM (#24280726)
You are not accounting for behavior change. Before the online ordering era, most people never went non-grocery shopping more than once a month. And did all that shopping in one big trip.

Once you think decide that all highly environmentally-destructive actions are not even an option on the table, your behavior changes.

Re:Amazon is delivering nearly two-thirds of its own packages by kelnos on Thursday September 03, 2020 @08:25AM (#24363293)
That's a good point. Non-grocery items were a special trip, were rare, and usually involved months worth of purchases.