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Re:Ten countries kept out Covid, but did they win? by Animats on Monday August 24, 2020 @02:11AM (#24257925)
A drop of only 5-10% in GDP? They won.

They're tiny isolated islands with tourism as a major industry. How's New Zealand doing?

Re:Ten countries kept out Covid, but did they win? by refurb on Monday August 24, 2020 @02:21AM (#24257960)
“I think they have to start reopening again – maybe have travel bubbles with New Zealand and countries like that,” he says. “Otherwise, no one can survive here.”

Sounds like there might not be much of a tourist industry left if they stay closed entirely.

Looks like Palau lost 40% of it's GDP with the loss of 100% of tourism.

Re:Ten countries kept out Covid, but did they win? by Taniwha on Monday August 24, 2020 @04:27AM (#24258527)
Our (NZ's) tourist industry is in trouble, but most of the country (except for 1 city for the past 2 weeks due to a new cluster) hasn't been in lockdown for 3 months and people are taking vacations, locally rather than internationally - ski slopes are open - the govt is supporting some tourist stuff that's going into hibernation until after, there will still be bungie jumping and Hobbiton to visit when it's all over.

We've largely beaten the infection (despite what Trump has said recently), except for people coming back from overseas into quarantine, we had no new cases for 3 months, 2 weeks or so ago we had an outbreak in Auckland which is currently locked down (we do lockdown much harder than most other countries), probably until this current weekend. Apart from this the rest of us are out and about, we have some limitations on large crowds, most people are going to work, I went out to a movie on Sat (Tenet), then for a meal at a restaurant. Went to Queenstown for a weekend away a couple of months ago.

Having said that - we expect to have more small outbreaks and associated lockdowns, the quicker we can find them the quicker we can nuke them.

Re:Ten countries kept out Covid, but did they win? by goalieca on Monday August 24, 2020 @07:24AM (#24259579)
The funny thing about New Zealand is that the new outbreak has genetics unique to New Zealand. It’s very likely that they never actually rid themselves of it and that it had time to mutate. It could be seen as a warning that suppression works only so long as you keep suppressing even under relatively ideal conditions.
Re:Ten countries kept out Covid, but did they win? by crummy on Monday August 24, 2020 @03:58PM (#24264810)
I think it's unlikely that it's been spreading around undetected for 100 days, and suddenly we've noticed it. We've found nearly 100 new cases in the mass testing that has come out of this outbreak, but they all can be traced back to a single source.
Re:Ten countries kept out Covid, but did they win? by UberMouse on Monday August 24, 2020 @08:09PM (#24266911)
Provide a source for that? As someone who actually lives in New Zealand that's the exact opposite of what they have said about the outbreaks genetics... iirc it looks like it might have come from the UK or Australia.