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Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by dsabanin on Thursday August 20, 2020 @12:42PM (#24225161)
I was born in Russia and I despise Putin. He is the reason why I emigrated. He and his cronies brough the country into the dark age, from which it may never come out. He is, without a single doubt, Hitler of the 21st century.

* He consolidated all the political and judicial power. Destroyed, physically, politically or judicially all the opponents. Elections are completely fake.

* He completely controls all secret services, with vast spying network and formidable IT intrusion capabilities.

* He implemented full and completely legal surveilance state. Documented and legally mandated recording of all the cellphone communications, email, internet access logs. They urgently started building DNA database of all the citizens. Every citizen will be assigned a unique number to which all the data from all the agencies will be tied. Even a regular neighborhood policeman will have access to all this data. Cameras with face recognition being installed all over Moscow. Chinese-like internet firewall is being created.

* He controls the organized crime networks, in fact his whole gang who is in charge of Russia grew out of that crime syndicate.

* He leads and benefits from a group of very powerful "capitalists", serving the regime needs in many, many different ways around the world and internally.

* He completely controls all the media (bought out by his cronies or nationalized), which helped him create a blatant propaganda machine, rivaled probably only by Chinese and North Koreans. They can spin anything. People in Russia are utterly confused and don't believe in reality anymore. They are drowned in ridiculous bullshit all day long and conspiracy theories are being distributed by state TV channels.

* He usied this propaganda machine to create myth of the great Russian world and moral and intellectual exceptionality of Slavs. Constantly bringing up the great heroic ancestors and their achievement in WW2, and duty if modern Russians to not squander what they achieved. There's constantly talks about how Russia is the only true God's country, and that it's a moral savior of the world. There's an instilled feeling of victimhood, almost sainthood, of Russian culture. Everything that happens is somebody else's fault, a foreign influence, an accident, or sabotage. They truly believe that russians are the greatest people on Earth.

* He annexed Crimea, created instability and puppet regimes in many bordering states. His next possible goal is Belarus.

I believe, these are pretty much all the ingredients necessary to build a nazi/fascist state, and that is in fact exactly what they've built.

Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by etc-hosts on Thursday August 20, 2020 @06:15PM (#24229654)
> Everything that happens is somebody else's fault, a foreign influence, an accident, or sabotage.

This really sounds like many US politicans and public media figures.

Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by geoka9 on Thursday August 20, 2020 @02:46PM (#24226999)
> Constantly bringing up the great heroic ancestors and their achievement in WW2, and duty if modern Russians to not squander what they achieved.

I would also add the death cult mentality that they are trying to achieve with the Russians ("we can do this again anytime!").

Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by ChomskyNormal4m on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:53PM (#24226224)
> [Putin] consolidated all the political and judicial power. Destroyed, physically, politically or judicially all the opponents.

You are writing in English, and thus aimed at a US/UK audience - the president of the US (Clinton) and PM of the UK (Major) celebrated the 1993 shelling by the military of the Russian parliament that consolidated Yeltsin's power, and that of his chosen successor, Putin. Putin didn't consolidate power and destroy opposition, this was done in 1993 to celebration in the West.

The problem with this in the West really started in 2007 when Putin announced in Munich that Russia would no longer tolerate the US's continual encroachment against Russia. Suddenly all these events going back to 1993 which had been celebrated were cast as nefarious.

Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by enkid on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:58PM (#24226294)
Yeltsin certainly began the process, but it's hard to argue that Putin hasn't acted very aggressively to consolidate power. The idea that just because it was a process that started under a previous ruler, the currently ruler shouldn't be blamed for embracing and expanding the corrupt policies makes no sense.

Also, what is the encroachment you are talking about against Russia? Are you talking about allowing the people of the former Soviet Union to choose to move away from Russia toward the West and enter into a defensive military alliance? Because that's not encroachment. That's helping those people get out from under Russian encroachment. Russia does not get to play the victim card because we're letting people outside of Russia choose to move away from them. That's not how reality works. Just because Russia neighbors the Baltics, Georgia, and Ukraine does not give them any right to demand they follow specific domestic policies. But that is exactly what Putin is trying to assert.

Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by martythemaniak on Thursday August 20, 2020 @02:13PM (#24226478)
Yes, this is indeed the "encroachment" GP talks about. The Russocentric worldview does not see non-Russian easterners as sentient beings capable of making choices, they are little more than mooks and serfs which rightfully belong to them. A Czech or a Georgian cannot decide to join NATO or the EU, it is "The West" stealing Russia's stuff.

This is perfectly fine view if you're Russian (who wouldn't want to control giant serf armies?), but it's pretty depressing to see it take off the western discourse.

Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by vkou on Thursday August 20, 2020 @03:35PM (#24227723)
The reason for that, of course, is that Russia, like any right-thinking country, wants to be surrounded by friendly or neutral buffer states.

If Mexico and Canada entered a military alliance with China, how do you think Washington would react? How long would it take until we would see regime change in Ottawa?

It's not a 'perfectly fine' view, it is just a natural consequence of being encircled.

Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by vogre on Thursday August 20, 2020 @02:05PM (#24226381)
Just remember what happened when Cuba followed some domestic policies US didn't like in 1962.
Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by strictnein on Thursday August 20, 2020 @02:14PM (#24226493)
The Cuban Missile Crisis was a domestic policy?
Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by sam_lowry_ on Thursday August 20, 2020 @03:05PM (#24227306)
Technically, yes. A sovereign country can invite another sovereign country to host their missiles, especially if they have a powerful enemy nearby, ready to launch theirs.
Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by strictnein on Friday August 21, 2020 @02:33AM (#24232593)
> placing foreign nuclear missiles in your country to threaten another country

Clearly that's not "domestic".

Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by sam_lowry_ on Friday August 21, 2020 @03:43AM (#24232928)
Threaten another country? That's only one interpretation. I would say, to protect own soil.
Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by strictnein on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @11:04PM (#24289761)
lol - just noticed your stealth edit. I was quoting you.
Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by enkid on Thursday August 20, 2020 @04:17PM (#24228351)
First, let's not play whataboutism. Certainly the US isn't perfect. That doesn't make what Russia is doing ok. Second, Cuba is a totalitarian dictatorship. That's probably not the best example.
Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by trumpersHateMe on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:13PM (#24225690)
That reads like the playbook being used by certain leader we have here in the states.
Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by sneak on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:48PM (#24226157)
I don’t see any huge, monolithic nations not moving toward this goal.

Putin seems to be quite good at it, but that doesn’t discount the effects in countries he doesn’t run. The global superpowers all dream of having a system like that, and all are various steps toward achieving it.

Here’s the same text, region modified:

> There's constantly talks about how America is the only true God's country, and that it's a moral savior of the world. There's an instilled feeling of victimhood, almost sainthood, of the American way of life. Everything that happens is somebody else's fault, a foreign influence, an accident, or sabotage. They truly believe that americans are the greatest people on Earth.

Sound familiar?

Re:The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most P... by lenkite on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:39PM (#24226050)
Who ?