Fortnite’s battle with Apple and Google could have an impact on news publishers

Re:Fortnite’s battle with Apple and Google could have an imp... by ak217 on Thursday August 20, 2020 @12:01PM (#24224629)

I don't think Tim Sweeney got into this fight to get a sweetheart deal. He has strongly held beliefs about platform rentiering and developer and app consumer rights. Epic could have negotiated a deal with Apple in private, instead they chose to maximize the publicity.

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Re:Fortnite’s battle with Apple and Google could have an imp... by criddell on Thursday August 20, 2020 @12:13PM (#24224783)

If Sweeney's beliefs are that strongly held then I expect Epic to pressure their partner Sony (Sony invested $250 million in Epic last month) to allow alternate apps stores on the PS5.

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Re:Fortnite’s battle with Apple and Google could have an imp... by SyneRyder on Thursday August 20, 2020 @12:56PM (#24225421)

Epic already fought Sony previously over the ability to have cross-platform interaction, and ultimately Epic won. They're not afraid to fight Sony and they used Fortnite in that battle to change PlayStation store rules too:

https://www.polygon.com/2018/9/26/17905770/fortnite-cross-pl...

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Re:Fortnite’s battle with Apple and Google could have an imp... by WrtCdEvrydy on Thursday August 20, 2020 @12:45PM (#24225225)

I mean, if you want to pay full price for your console, sure.

The console market only works if you sell the hardware under cost and then charge up the ass for services to the game developers ($50,000 was the price point for pushing updates on PS4)

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Re:Fortnite’s battle with Apple and Google could have an imp... by m4rtink on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:20PM (#24225786)

IIRC modern consoles are at cost - do you have any linkable claims otherwise ?

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Re:Fortnite’s battle with Apple and Google could have an imp... by WrtCdEvrydy on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:47PM (#24226145)

My data could be out of date -> https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2006/11/8239/

PS3 didn't regain profitability until the end.

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Re:Fortnite’s battle with Apple and Google could have an imp... by m4rtink on Thursday August 20, 2020 @06:34PM (#24229814)

Looks like Switch is sold at cost (also mentions couple previous consoles from Nintendo were the same): https://www.technobuffalo.com/nintendo-switch-sold-at-profit

PS4 as well: https://www.quora.com/How-will-Sony-make-money-off-the-PS5-b...

Only Xbox seems to be sold at loss at the moment: https://www.thurrott.com/games/xbox/xbox-one/118357/microsof...

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Re:Fortnite’s battle with Apple and Google could have an imp... by criddell on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:36PM (#24226016)

Lets pretend that consoles are loss leaders (I don't believe they are).

The current system is structured to be as profitable as possible for Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo and to keep competitors out. These companies aren't good guys looking out for me and you, they are looking out for the interests of their shareholders.

If the $50k price for updates is true, that's awful. It sets up a lot of bad incentives for developers. Consumers deserve much better than that.

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Re:Fortnite’s battle with Apple and Google could have an imp... by simonh on Thursday August 20, 2020 @12:41PM (#24225144)

$250m buys a lot of moral fibre these days.

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Re:Fortnite’s battle with Apple and Google could have an imp... by jdminhbg on Thursday August 20, 2020 @02:56PM (#24227148)

> He has strongly held beliefs about platform rentiering and developer and app consumer rights.

I am excited for third-party Fortnite skin stores.

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