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Re:The Trouble with Quantum Mechanics (2017) [pdf] by whatshisface on Thursday August 20, 2020 @11:11AM (#24224087)
>Zen koan where the students cannot tell whether the flag is moving in the wind or the wind is moving around the flag. The master tells them that the mind, neither the flag nor the wind, is what is moving.

This is so dumb because the flag and the wind are both moving, there isn't an inertial frame where either one is stationary. (The wind, maybe in the far-field, but not near the flag.)

Re:The Trouble with Quantum Mechanics (2017) [pdf] by goatlover on Thursday August 20, 2020 @11:18AM (#24224150)
Buddhism often has an idealistic approach to reality. The world as separate things and individuals is considered an illusion. So the flag and wind are products of the mind individuating from a singular reality. Or something along those lines.

Or at least it means the process of knowing about the flag and the wind is a mental one.

Re:The Trouble with Quantum Mechanics (2017) [pdf] by zvrba on Thursday August 20, 2020 @12:44PM (#24225195)
I interpret this as: the world is just exactly as it is, whereas "moving" is a concept formed in the observer's mind. IOW, the "true"/"hard" reality follows its own course and does not care about intertial frames or other conceptualizations.