2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Racist Regimes

Re:2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Rac... by bahlhala on Thursday August 20, 2020 @10:31AM (#24223663)

i get where you are coming from.. but the problem is the lack of a better option, this is not a perfect solution.

as i said elswhere in comments - i saw my dad being respected for an ability to do stuff with his computer (computers were not generally used in offices etc. at the time). my childs mind wanted to get some of that respect.. so i invested time learning and playing with computers.

I saw white dudes on tv doing everything - they were all the good guys (and even most of the bad guys) i grew up thinking i could do anything. i would love to be able to say the same for my daughter.

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Re:2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Rac... by dleslie on Thursday August 20, 2020 @11:01AM (#24223984)

I suspect your kids will be fine as long as they have a supportive and conscientious parent, as you seem to be.

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Re:2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Rac... by throwaway_35345 on Thursday August 20, 2020 @11:15AM (#24224123)

> i would love to be able to say the same for my daughter

Are you going to tell her how you did it?

This seems like a real ends-justify-the-means dilema. I think what you're advocating for is fundamentally immoral. I accept it probably achieves the result we want, but we mustn't do it because it's wrong.

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Re:2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Rac... by dleslie on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:08PM (#24225628)

What is immoral about educating your children how to achieve the abilities you exhibit?

Or am I misreading; what, specifically, do you think is immoral here? Perhaps I'm confused.

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Re:2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Rac... by throwaway_35345 on Thursday August 20, 2020 @02:35PM (#24226824)

When you said

> i would love to be able to say the same for my daughter.

I thought you were expressing support for no longer hiring white men, which is what the thread was about? I think that's immoral.

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Re:2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Rac... by dleslie on Thursday August 20, 2020 @08:02PM (#24230440)

I'm not OP, I was just curious what you thought was immoral about OP. ;)

I think it's immoral to prejudice individuals upon their immutable traits, like ethnicity, sexuality, gender and so on; so we're probably in agreement.

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