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Re:Ultralight lithium-sulfur batteries for electric airplanes by DarmokJalad1701 on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @04:12PM (#24215684)
Sure. The average car gets 25 mpg, consuming ~1400 Wh/mi. A Tesla Model 3 uses ~240 Wh/mi. Thats almost a factor of 6 difference. You don't need quite as much energy when you are significantly more efficient and it is only getting more efficient as time goes on. Also add in the factor of recovering energy using regenerative braking which is impossible with ICE.

With a car, unless you have a specific use-case where you are driving 200+ miles a day, an EV is a no-brainer when it comes to efficiency in operating cost as well as emissions and overall energy use.

Re:Ultralight lithium-sulfur batteries for electric airplanes by asdfadsfgfdda on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @04:37PM (#24216066)
A Model 3 is smaller than the average car, it should be compared to something like a Honda Accord hybrid. Both have a similar cabin volume of ~100 ft^3. The fuel economy for a hybrid Accord is 48 mpg, or 760 Wh/mile.

The Accord is also $10k cheaper, presumably that is because the Model 3 requires more materials and more embodied energy.

Re:Ultralight lithium-sulfur batteries for electric airplanes by mulmen on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @05:19PM (#24216672)
> The Accord is also $10k cheaper, presumably that is because the Model 3 requires more materials and more embodied energy.

Do economies of scale and manufacturing expertise factor in to "embodied energy"?

Re:Ultralight lithium-sulfur batteries for electric airplanes by dmos62 on Thursday August 20, 2020 @08:17AM (#24222424)
What are the energy requirements and emissions for just building the vehicle? I've heard rumours that it's non-negligible when considering total emissions that a car will have caused.
Re:Ultralight lithium-sulfur batteries for electric airplanes by 1958325146 on Thursday August 20, 2020 @11:00AM (#24223978)
Page 9 of https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2019-tesla-impact-report.pdf has a chart for that (Average Lifecycle Emissions in New York State (gCO2e/mi)).

Electric: 54 in manufacturing, 74 in use

Gas: 45 in manufacturing, 420 in use