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Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by Retric on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @10:31AM (#24198998)
A profitable company can pay dividends which would easily cover a wealth tax. Owning 50M worth of stock in an unprofitable company with zero other income sources or investments is a significant sign you should diversify anyway.
Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by macrolime on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @01:52PM (#24201837)
A startup founder can end up owning 50M worth of stock in an unprofitable company. What happens then if the company is worth 1M by the time it's time to pay the tax?

In my country, there are people who's had to declare personal bankruptcy from this situation.

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by Retric on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @11:05PM (#24206755)
That’s always going to be country specific. Generally, anyone that’s failed to diversify their investment so a 98% drop in some asset doesn’t result in them losing 90+% of their fortune has already failed.

Also, be cautious about how early investments may artificially inflate the value of the company. Convertible debt is one way around that issue.

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by chii on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @11:25AM (#24199807)
Dividends themselves are taxed. So why make it a wealth tax, which erodes your accumulated wealth, instead of taxing the income directly?
Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by Retric on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @11:48AM (#24200117)
Tax avoidance has become an art form. Companies have minimized dividends so wealth can compound without being taxed, but that has negative economic effects as they accumulate effectively pointless cash hordes. Further, several things like inheritance let you change the tax basis. Selling stock and donating the proceeds is worse for you than donating the stock directly etc.

In other words tax income and the game is to hide income, tax wealth and you increase economic efficiency. Wealth taxes only erode wealth if you fail to make positive returns.

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by SpicyLemonZest on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @10:40AM (#24199112)
It's probably personally advantageous to diversify in that situation. But if you get recruited by a $100m startup that's not yet profitable, and you hear that the founder sold half her stock last year, is there any chance you're working there?
Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by bhupy on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @10:37AM (#24199079)
Great point.

However, Amazon (as an example) does not pay dividends.

And also, this creates an incentive to pay dividends to shareholders, as opposed to re-investing profits in R&D, which is an odd (IMO bad) incentive.

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by room500 on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @10:47AM (#24199234)
I wonder if that is a more natural (and long-term) structure though.

The current tech formula seems to be "build the biggest moat possible - worry about profitability later"

While that is driving some of the fastest growth in history, one has to wonder what the landscape will look like once these moats are built. Will these companies have full power to price however they please?

If a company is incentivized to be profitable as they grow, would it lead to a more stable future where we have multiple competitors in each industry?

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by HarryHirsch on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @12:35PM (#24200798)
what the landscape will look like once these moats are built

You see this now with the cloud vendor lock-in bullshit. Too much productivity wasted through too much unnecessary friction.

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by garmaine on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @12:17PM (#24200548)
How do you diversify restricted common stock in a non public company?