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Re:Apple, Epic, and the App Store by chadcmulligan on Monday August 17, 2020 @07:16PM (#24193431)
I suppose one way to counteract this is for apple to license app stores and they have to have the same standards as apples store. I have no desire to have low quality stores on my phone, thats why I like the iPhone - I don't have to worry about all the nonsense android phone owners do.
Re:Apple, Epic, and the App Store by Mindwipe on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @08:27AM (#24197792)
> I suppose one way to counteract this is for apple to license app stores and they have to have the same standards as apples store.

Absolutely not - that's the entire point of this action. Apple's "standards" are to block upgrade pricing and force developers down a path of microtransactions. Do we really want that to be carried over to other stores? Do we want other stores to have to live with Apple's decision to block apps to help dissidents in Hong Kong or the Middle East communicate?

A single point of decision-making on code always leads to terrible geopolitical outcomes. Always. That is the important part of what is happening here.

Re:Apple, Epic, and the App Store by bllguo on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @04:55AM (#24196555)
So many comments here to this effect and they're all so puzzling. I'd love to hear exactly what "nonsense" I'm supposedly worried about all the time. Relying solely on Google's store is perfectly usable. I wish I could find data on this but I'd confidently assert the vast vast majority of (non-Chinese) Android owners never use alternative stores.
Re:Apple, Epic, and the App Store by chadcmulligan on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @08:13AM (#24197690)
The first one that comes to mind is how many android phones are out of date - upgrading to the latest version of android isn't a priority for mobile distributors and is a lot of work on some phones. So this causes a larger attack surface, Apple is very careful to make their phones all have the latest iOS - also makes it easier to develop to.

Another issue is trust - who knows what google does with your data, their business model includes exploiting your personal data, Apple has a vested interest in keeping your personal data secure and doesn't keep the keys to it - its their business model.

These two are enough for me, theres also a lot more reports of android apps with exploits - a google turns up a lot of them, less so with iPhone, and apple reacts if there is. Maybe these issues have been addressed in android, if so it's not something Google appears serious about, if they were then they'd be advertising how secure their phones are and how they don't touch your data - apple is very serious about keeping my data personal and has invested a lot of their business integrity in that.

Edit: tl;dr - googles business model is built around exploiting your personal data, apples is built around keeping your personal data secure

Re:Apple, Epic, and the App Store by jld89 on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @04:34AM (#24208368)
Apple's business model is also built around exploiting your personal data, not at the same scale sure but still. Just look at the Siri recordings scandal
Re:Apple, Epic, and the App Store by Mindwipe on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @08:28AM (#24197800)
> Edit: tl;dr - googles business model is built around exploiting your personal data, apples is built around keeping your personal data secure

Unless you're Chinese, when it's not.

Re:Apple, Epic, and the App Store by chadcmulligan on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @08:51AM (#24197982)
I if was Chinese then I probably couldn't say anything about it, but not sure how this is related to the current discussion - not much any of us can do about china - including apple