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Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by Hamuko on Monday August 17, 2020 @04:51PM (#24191910)
Yeah, but the technology used for all of the games is the same isn't it? It's just streaming.

And if it's about content, I doube Apple is pre-approving every Netflix show. I bet some of the offerings on Netflix even show female nipples.

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-instagram-bans-freetheni...

Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by crysin on Monday August 17, 2020 @05:00PM (#24192035)
The Witcher shows a lot of nipple
Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by viro on Monday August 17, 2020 @05:02PM (#24192059)
are you really comparing video to executable code?
Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by detaro on Monday August 17, 2020 @05:09PM (#24192132)
What executable code? The executable code running on Microsofts servers?
Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by Hamuko on Monday August 17, 2020 @05:08PM (#24192121)
Am I comparing streaming video to streaming video? Why yes, I am.
Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by zepto on Monday August 17, 2020 @08:33PM (#24194016)
You keep repeating this, but at this point it’s hard to imagine that you really see no difference in either the technology or the experience between what Netflix does and what xCloud does.

Do you really not see that there is a difference between watching a movie, and controlling a remote video console which is playing a fully interactive video game?

Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by jolux on Monday August 17, 2020 @11:36PM (#24195005)
There’s a difference but it’s relatively pedantic. Netflix has interactive shows and the play/pause is necessarily controlling a remote server as well.
Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by zepto on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @12:50AM (#24195374)
It’s not pedantic to say that movies and videogames are different.

Most people in the world would think you insane if you said you perceived them to be the same thing.

Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by jolux on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @01:45AM (#24195661)
You’re misreading me. I’m saying that the technological distinction does not justify the policy distinction. I don’t at all believe they’re the same thing.

The comments you’re replying to suggest that executables are being streamed or something, and they’re not.

Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by jolux on Monday August 17, 2020 @05:09PM (#24192131)
It doesn’t download executables, it streams your inputs to a server which streams synced AV back.
Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by zepto on Monday August 17, 2020 @04:59PM (#24192022)
Apps and videos pose different security risks, but I assume you know this.
Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by Hamuko on Monday August 17, 2020 @05:05PM (#24192093)
Do you think xCloud copies a binary executable of Halo Infinite on every Android and iOS device?
Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by zepto on Monday August 17, 2020 @05:12PM (#24192180)
Do you think it’s possible to enter a credit card number into a steaming video of ‘friends’?

A steaming app (game or not) can pop up a fraudulent credit card payment interface at any time.

Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by Hamuko on Monday August 17, 2020 @05:14PM (#24192190)
I don't see the point you are making.

If video streaming is so bad, Netflix should not be on the App Store for "iDevice security". If video game streaming is so bad, Twitch should not be on the App Store for "iDevice security".

Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by zimpenfish on Monday August 17, 2020 @05:36PM (#24192466)
> If video game streaming is so bad

It's not just streaming, it's interactive streaming where it could well happen that PayToWin / LootBox / etc games can appear.

Now, of course, they already exist on the App Store (and I honestly wish Apple would ban them outright) but there, at least, Apple has some kind of leverage - with xCloud, they have none.

Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by jonny_eh on Monday August 17, 2020 @05:58PM (#24192697)
Netflix offers "interactive movies", and those are apparently ok, for some reason.
Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by zepto on Monday August 17, 2020 @08:30PM (#24194000)
That’s a fair point. At some point far down the road of complexity, those could cross into the territory of ‘gaming’.

But Netflix can read the same rules the rest of us can, and know that they signed a contract that doesn’t allow App storefronts.

Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by seslaire on Monday August 17, 2020 @05:52PM (#24192633)
What capabilities would the streamed app have for deception that a website lacks?
Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by zepto on Monday August 17, 2020 @08:26PM (#24193968)
None. That’s the point. Both can deceive you in ways that App Store Apps cannot.

One reason people spend so much money in the App Store is because it is relatively safe to do so.

Re:I fear App Review is getting too powerful (2015) [pdf] by seslaire on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @05:52AM (#24196879)
But then why are browsers allowed in the App Store?