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Re:Arm co-founder: Sale to Nvidia would be a disaster by simonh on Sunday August 16, 2020 @05:04AM (#24176337)
Apple’s ARM chips contain an awful lot of different components, some of which are highly customised. The neural engine stuff they use for image processing for example. The CPU cores are custom tuned, but I believe they are still 90% based on ARM CPU core designs. For example the Secure Enclave is actually an ARM developed CPU extension. Apple focuses their efforts vary specifically on areas that give them features that grant a competitive advantage. They don’t reimplement stuff for the sake of it. One of their big performance wins over other ARM licensees isn’t even really in the CPU, it’s the very well designed and generous cache memory systems.

Having said that, looking to the future I think Apple is clearly willing to pour more resources into their CPU programme than any of their competitors. This means the risk to them is probably a lot less than to say Qualcomm or Samsung as they have a much better capability to go their own way. As time goes on their designs will probably diverge more and more from main line ARM anyway.

Re:Arm co-founder: Sale to Nvidia would be a disaster by unix_fan on Sunday August 16, 2020 @11:29AM (#24178542)
Apple‘s designs are already far better than the equivalent ARM coRe. I doubt they're using anything besides the ISA.
Re:Arm co-founder: Sale to Nvidia would be a disaster by omikun on Sunday August 16, 2020 @05:58PM (#24181720)
Apple licenses the isa only. They implement their own micro architecture.
Re:Arm co-founder: Sale to Nvidia would be a disaster by simonh on Monday August 17, 2020 @03:17AM (#24184784)
Apple has an architecture license from ARM, which allows them to design their own cores yes, but also includes all the benefits of all the lower tiers including rights to all the ARM designs.

This would have to be the case, because Apple still uses many of their earlier ARM designs in products, which we know used ARM designed cores and would definitely require core design licenses.

Re:Arm co-founder: Sale to Nvidia would be a disaster by mycall on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @01:20AM (#24195546)
All this seems fitting since they are an ARM founder.