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Re:The ELIZA Effect (2019) by MaxBarraclough on Sunday August 16, 2020 @08:38AM (#24177266)
The article doesn't explain what ELIZA effect means: the tendency to unconsciously assume computer behaviors are analogous to human behaviors; that is, anthropomorphisation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect

Re:The ELIZA Effect (2019) by jl2718 on Sunday August 16, 2020 @10:42AM (#24178201)
This is more specifically the assumption that a computer understands and more importantly cares about what you are saying, and maybe also you as a person. This assumption is obviously wrong for the computer, but also usually wrong when interpreting responses from an actual therapist, or any other human, so no difference really.
Re:The ELIZA Effect (2019) by 082349872349872 on Sunday August 16, 2020 @11:24AM (#24178506)
Why do you mention computers? In what way is it that actual therapists are like any other human? What does that suggest to you?
Re:The ELIZA Effect (2019) by 1f60c on Sunday August 16, 2020 @11:50AM (#24178727)
I see what you did there ;-)
Re:The ELIZA Effect (2019) by throwaway_pdp09 on Sunday August 16, 2020 @12:56PM (#24179294)
Tell me more about what you did there.
Re:The ELIZA Effect (2019) by 1f60c on Sunday August 16, 2020 @11:51AM (#24178741)
I built a simple chatbot that uses GPT-3, which can be very convincingly human at times, so I can understand the tendency.
Re:The ELIZA Effect (2019) by politelemon on Sunday August 16, 2020 @07:39AM (#24176987)
Related: I didn't see mentioned on the page, there is also a visual novel game called Eliza, named after the same subject, and the in game Eliza follows a very similar script to the text screenshot shown on the page. It's an interesting game if you like visual novels, and it explores a few other concepts beyond the human machine relationship.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliza_(video_game)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/716500/Eliza/

Re:The ELIZA Effect (2019) by zxcvbn4038 on Sunday August 16, 2020 @02:50PM (#24180154)
Eliza was a staple in every basic book and magazine ever published in the 80s and there were always copies in the computer labs, I’m sure I entered in this by hand at some point - https://everything2.com/title/ELIZA+source+code+in+BASIC

I knew a guy who wrote an irc bot called “Petunia“ that wasn’t even as sophisticated as Eliza - it would just make random statements and every time someone sent it a message it would be added to the list of statements. It would post everything sent and received on a web site - including a mountain of nsfw images received - would take some people 15-20 minutes to decide that Petunia was fake.

Re:The ELIZA Effect (2019) by zxcvbn4038 on Sunday August 16, 2020 @03:51PM (#24180665)
Awesome! Someone wrote Eliza in golang with a web interface https://github.com/mattshiel/eliza-go
Re:The ELIZA Effect (2019) by shmageggy on Sunday August 16, 2020 @08:58AM (#24177376)
I was wondering if this was going to be a commentary on GPT-3 (it's not), since much of the latest hype has a similar feel as ELIZA. Of course the verdict is still out as to what extent GPT-3 "understands", but it's clear that the spooky realism we feel when interacting with it is partly due to our imposing anthropomorphic interpretations, just like ELIZA.
Re:The ELIZA Effect (2019) by jermier on Sunday August 16, 2020 @12:34PM (#24179133)
Yeah and we have better training material for AI now. For example it could be possible to create a program that mimics Hackernews comments. There's more than enough training material on HN to create plausible-looking comments that aren't a bunch of nonsensical gobbledygook and that also pander to people's emotions.