I took it to mean "get in the zone", not "don't play well with others".
Re:I’ll admit it. I’m a jealous developer
by scarface74 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @10:30PM
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How did that whole leaving artists alone to get in the zone work out when Ive wasn’t reigned in?
Re:I’ll admit it. I’m a jealous developer
by paulryanrogers on Saturday August 15, 2020 @09:00PM
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Interesting perspective. I think the truth is they needed each other and the circumstances in which they excelled.
Re:I’ll admit it. I’m a jealous developer
by scarface74 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @09:13PM
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Wozniak didn’t do anything significant after Apple. Not meant to be a judgmental, once you almost die it kind of changes your priorities and just by founding Apple he has done more in his life than most.
Jobs on the other hand, cofounded Apple, Next, and Pixar. The leaders at Next basically took over at Apple and the leaders at Pixar basically took over Disney’s animation division and ushered in a new era of animation.
Jobs of course didn’t do it by himself (my whole point). But he had some type of talent with finding the right people and getting them to do their best work. Was that the RDF? I don’t know.
Re:I’ll admit it. I’m a jealous developer
by brailsafe on Saturday August 15, 2020 @11:03PM
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Seems to me like Woz has lived a fullfilling life doing basically what he's wanted to do. I don't see how that's not significant. My impression is that he never made his life's mission the ostensibly virtuous path of making commodity products for the masses. Not at Apple and not elsewhere. If I were to admire someone for how they lived their life, I'd probably choose Woz, not Jobs, because it almost seems laughably unhealthy to do otherwise.
Re:I’ll admit it. I’m a jealous developer
by scarface74 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @11:09PM
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Isn’t that exactly what I said?
once you almost die it kind of changes your priorities and just by founding Apple he has done more in his life than most.
Re:I’ll admit it. I’m a jealous developer
by sys_64738 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @11:32PM
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Wozniak did the Apple thing and got lucky purely down to Jobs' drive. Wozniak did the engineering and then left or took a hiatus. The was it and he did nothing else. I admire his technical ability for what he did but he didn't do much of note after Apple. I could be wrong.
Re:I’ll admit it. I’m a jealous developer
by scarface74 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @11:50PM
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He invented the first universal remote. There’s that...
Re:I’ll admit it. I’m a jealous developer
by john4534243 on Sunday August 16, 2020 @08:57AM
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The way i see it is Jobs ripped of Woz, without Woz Job's is nothing. On the other hand without Job's Woz would still been a successful engineer at a tech organization.
Jobs wouldn’t have succeeded when he came back without Schiller, Forstall, Cook, Fadell, etc.