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Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by m000 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @03:24PM (#24171531)
Uhhhmmm... Speed? Stability? NTFS-3G has been a lifesaver for occasional use, but with anything remotely I/O intensive, it starts to crack.
Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by krzyk on Saturday August 15, 2020 @03:28PM (#24171564)
Why would you use NTFS on linux for anything other than occasional use?
Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by Fnoord on Saturday August 15, 2020 @03:38PM (#24171670)
To make backups of data on a Windows partition. Playing games residing on a Windows partition. The main purpose I can think of though is forensics (images might contain NTFS).
Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by nicoburns on Saturday August 15, 2020 @04:03PM (#24171915)
It's the only non-FAT filesystem with good cross-OS compatibiity.
Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by m000 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @04:39PM (#24172179)
This. Now, you've made me wonder if in the near future you could have both Windows and Linux installed on the same -gasp- partition.
Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by brnt on Saturday August 15, 2020 @05:51PM (#24172737)
I had for years. Usung Wubi.
Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by aflag on Saturday August 15, 2020 @08:51PM (#24173808)
Can't you use ext2/3 pretty much everywhere too?
Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by mimi89999 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @03:57PM (#24171865)
To deploy Windows from WIM imeges. Windows PE isn't something one would even consider using.
Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by jlgaddis on Sunday August 16, 2020 @05:04PM (#24181292)
I didn't know this was even possible but now I'll be looking into it. Thanks.
Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by ed25519FUUU on Saturday August 15, 2020 @03:32PM (#24171618)
Why should it matter?
Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by q3k on Saturday August 15, 2020 @03:59PM (#24171883)
Why not? It's a good filesystem, why not use it?
Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by nwallin on Saturday August 15, 2020 @06:10PM (#24172865)
It's kind of a garbage filesystem though.

HN gets all bent out of shape about minor differences between btrfs and zfs. Like how zfs supports raid5/6 but btrfs raid5/6 support is immature. Meanwhile NTFS doesn't even support checksumming, multiple block devices, copy on write, the performance on SSDs is garbage, etc etc.

Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by chasil on Saturday August 15, 2020 @11:08PM (#24174620)
The whole of the NT kernel was essentially a futurized implementation of VAX-VMS.

Both VMS and NT had the same manager, in the person of Dave Cutler. Microsoft hired a large team away from DEC to build NT (which became the subject of litigation from DEC).

I have read that NTFS shares common architecture with Files-11/ODS-2&5 (native VMS filesystems). Aspects were also lifted from OS/2.

ZFS was developed a decade after NTFS. Most UNIX was still on FFS when NTFS was born.

https://wikimili.com/en/Files-11

Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by p_l on Sunday August 16, 2020 @04:55PM (#24181222)
Ext2 was AFAIK a FFS-style design.
Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by Dylan16807 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @10:33PM (#24174386)
At least that 'garbage' hasn't died on me like the majority of my BTRFS partitions have. (Thankfully they all mostly still worked in read-only mode.)
Re:NTFS read-write GPL kernel driver by rwmj on Saturday August 15, 2020 @04:17PM (#24172008)
Stability hasn't been an issue for us. Virt-v2v uses ntfs-3g intensively and we have migrated a large fraction of a million VMs, many (the Windows ones) all using ntfs-3g. We've not had problems with ntfs-3g at all.

I'm still interested to see if an in-kernel driver can be better.

(Disclaimer: I have contributed a few patches to ntfs-3g upstream)