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Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by mgw on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @04:53PM (#2416910)
This makes me wonder, how many idle computing resources Amazon has on standby. Are there any numbers on this in the public?
Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by BoppreH on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @05:13PM (#2416994)
The thing that always bothered me about cloud computing is where the cloud gets its resources when everybody has a spike, such as during holidays.
Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by jonknee on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @05:28PM (#2417056)
Not everyone gets spikes during holidays--for example Amazon and other retailers get super busy at Christmas, but it's the slowest time of the year for a lot of web apps.
Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by seldo on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @05:44PM (#2417118)
That said, the last two Decembers we have had trouble instantiating new instances (in US-east-1a, their default and hence most popular location) in December. We solved the problem just by switching to US-east-1b for some tasks.
Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by influx on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @08:17PM (#2417625)
"In order to prevent an overloading of a single availability zone when everybody tries to run their instances in us-east-1a, Amazon has added a layer of indirection so that each account’s availability zones can map to different physical data center equivalents."

http://alestic.com/2009/07/ec2-availability-zones

Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by gojomo on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @07:06PM (#2417383)
Or even worse, when some emergent AI suddenly wants all the cycles, all the time.

(Will the first sign of a runaway AI be skyrocketing AWS spot prices?)

Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by riobard on Thursday April 07, 2011 @12:07AM (#2418144)
This is the beauty of aggregation: when you add a lot more different types of users to the system, the load tends to be balanced out because not everybody needs the same resource at exactly the same time. As long as the distribution of different resource requirement is relatively even, the larger the system is, the stabler it becomes.

Statistically, adding multiple standard derivations yield a smaller value than their sum.

Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by shykes on Thursday April 07, 2011 @12:16AM (#2418164)
No, that's the theoretical beauty of aggregation. If black friday causes a 10x spike in transactions, a larger system won't help you.
Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by riobard on Thursday April 07, 2011 @10:27AM (#2419559)
This kind of edge cases will happen much more frequently when you have multiple smaller systems. A larger system helps you by balancing out those. Will a larger system run out of resources if everyone requests it at the same time? Of course it will, but the likelihood will be statistically smaller than smaller systems.
Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by ceejayoz on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @05:36PM (#2417082)
> The thing that always bothered me about cloud computing is where the cloud gets its resources when everybody has a spike, such as during holidays.

When one side of the world is spiking, the other side is sleeping soundly.

Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by rsynnott on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @06:29PM (#2417264)
Occasionally, you just have to wait a while for an instance to start. It's rarely more than half an hour.
Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by lallysingh on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @06:55PM (#2417345)
I recall EC2 going to complete crap during the holidays -- it is (or at least was) their spare christmas capacity.
Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by amock on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @07:25PM (#2417443)
Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by dhughes on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @06:58PM (#2417358)
It seems to happen to Reddit everyday.
Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by tkahn6 on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @07:04PM (#2417374)
Amazon gave a tech talk at my school.

EC2 sprang from the problem that Amazon had to buy a bunch of servers to handle the load around the holidays and these servers went underutilized during the rest of the year. So they decided to lease those resources.

When asked about what happens to EC2 during the holidays, the engineer basically replied that Amazon has priority.

Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by whakojacko on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @08:47PM (#2417713)
According to Werner Vogels' (Amazon's CTO) Quora answer, the excess capacity story is a myth. http://www.quora.com/How-and-why-did-Amazon-get-into-the-clo...
Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by tkahn6 on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @09:11PM (#2417773)
Well then, that's odd. Thanks for clearing that up.
Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by wmf on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @05:44PM (#2417120)
Thanks to the spot market there should be little or no idle capacity.
Re:10,000-core Linux supercomputer built in Amazon cloud by nraynaud on Wednesday April 06, 2011 @05:49PM (#2417137)
my guess is more like you have waves of computation, with a mass effect of people targeting the cheap spots.