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Re:Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps by shaklee3 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @01:35AM (#24166246)
Nobody has ever claimed 20ms to go around the world, because that's physically impossible. He did claim ping times would be 20ms, which is patently false, even within CONUS. There is no "second generation" to date. They have not been launched or tested. So the more of v1 that are out, the less v2 you can launch without deorbiting a very expensive part of the fleet.
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Re:Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps by Dylan16807 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @01:36AM (#24166254)
It's not patently false! Some of the testers got 20ms already AND this is a beta.
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Re:Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps by shaklee3 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @01:40AM (#24166268)
Let's revisit this. There's no point in arguing, but a single data point during a beta is clearly not what he was referring to.
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Re:Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps by Dylan16807 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @01:44AM (#24166290)
Sure, we can revisit this later.

But if we need to look at the numbers later, doesn't that mean you're conceding the point about it being "clearly not going to happen" and "patently false" that it will ever reach the promised number?

Or do you think I'm delusional to say "maybe it will, maybe it won't" and you're just humoring me by offering to revisit?

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Re:Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps by shaklee3 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @11:32AM (#24169578)
Just to add some color to my comment: https://mobile.twitter.com/Megaconstellati/status/1294628802...

So SpaceX only has 2 PoP locations, and it happens to be the areas where they are doing trials. As soon as the ground system needs to backhaul the signal over long fiber distances, things change quite a bit.

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Re:Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps by shaklee3 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @01:47AM (#24166306)
I'm maintaining these are best case numbers and that they'll go up when the service is live. I would bet you'll never see 20ms when paying customers are on it.
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